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Article #12622Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:47
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:47
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On Jul 17, 8:49 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 18, 8:49 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence! > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves > > > >>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it > > > >>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls > > > >>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate > > > >>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads > > > >>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity, > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental > > > >>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to > > > >>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron... > > > >>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement, > > > >>>>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind. > > > >>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me. > > > >>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in > > > >>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore > > > >>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>>>>>> You do not have a point. You are using various ideas as an excuse to > > > >>>>>>> use profanity. It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas > > > >>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself. > > > >>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply > > > >>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other. > > > >>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you > > > >>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have > > > >>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"! > > > >>>>>> How is being profane dishonest? > > > >>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>>>> Well, not quite normal. I get tired of atheists who can be totally > > > >>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me. > > > >>>>> Take it somewhere else. > > > >>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine? > > > >>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly > > > >>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers. > > > >>> The behavior of atheists can be changed. I just go ahead and change > > > >>> it. > > > >> Pride is a sin. > > > > > Yes, that is correct. > > > > So, you just sinned. > > > In what way did I sin? > > Robert B. Winn > > 1. Having a mental problem is a sin. > 2. Not staying the hospital for treatment is a sin. > 3. Speaking and writing nonsense is a sin. > 4. Posting lies or words without substantiated is a sin. > 5. Lying and does not seek repent is a sin. > 6. Being scolded and does not admit fault is a sin. > 7. Cannot see the falsehood of bible is a sin. > 8. Believe in Adam/Eve is a sin. > 9. Rely upon god for the existence of human is a sin. > 10. Putting words into your god is a sin. > 11. ..................................................>1000- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - OK, well, all you need to do now is enforce your commandments. Robert B. Winn
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