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Article #12624Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:48
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:48
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Al. You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind. >>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me. >>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in >>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore >>>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point. You are using various ideas as an excuse to >>>>>>>>>>> use profanity. It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas >>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself. >>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply >>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other. >>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you >>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have >>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"! >>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest? >>>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal. I get tired of atheists who can be totally >>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me. >>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else. >>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine? >>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly >>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers. >>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed. I just go ahead and change >>>>>>> it. >>>>>> Pride is a sin. >>>>> Yes, that is correct. >>>> So, you just sinned. >>> In what way did I sin? >> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists. The sin? Pride. >> > I do not imagine anything. I just do things. Sorry, but you're still imagining. Name me one atheist that you've "changed". -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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