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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12624
From: DanielSan
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:48
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 17, 6:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
>>>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
>>>>>>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
>>>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
>>>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
>>>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
>>>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
>>>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
>>>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
>>>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
>>>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
>>>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
>>>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
>>>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
>>>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
>>>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
>>>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> Pride is a sin.
>>>>> Yes, that is correct.
>>>> So, you just sinned.
>>> In what way did I sin?
>> Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists.  The sin?  Pride.
>>
> I do not imagine anything.  I just do things.

Sorry, but you're still imagining.  Name me one atheist that you've 
"changed".


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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
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* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
*  wants them to do because I notice it always       *
*  coincides with their own desires."                *
*                                 --Susan B. Anthony *
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