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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:01
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On Jul 17, 9:06�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
> >> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
> >> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
> >> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
> >> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
> >> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
> >> your humanity.
>
> >> TLA- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. �Stalin and Pol Pot were
> > both atheists.
>
> Yes, and the Crusader Popes, and the Bush family, and Hitler, and
> several genocidal factions of the Serbo-Croat wars, and the warring
> factions in Northern Ireland were Christians, mostly (Hitler excepted)
> killing in by they considered to be their version of God's will. We can
> both find examples until the cows come home, and each successive example
> � advances the argument not one jot.
>
> I said it before, and it bears repeating - neither Christian nor atheist
> can claim the moral high ground when it comes to genocide or mass murder
> or war-making.
>
> > But politicians who killed large numbers of people
> > cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
> > was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
>
> You're confusing secular with atheist. You really don't understand what
> "atheist" means, do you? Or rather, you choose not to make the
> distinction between atheist, agnostic, satanist, secular, and so on.
>
> It's either ignorance, wilful stupidity, or trolling, and the jury's out.
>
> TLA

Atheists are people who believe they are not accountable for their
actions.  They believe that the only thing that matters is if they get
away with some particular course of action.  They have themselves
convinced that they have succeeded in killing millions of unborn
children per year with no consequences.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:01:05 -0700 (PDT)
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