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Article #12636Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:17
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:17
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On Jul 17, 1:02 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 16, 12:01 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 14, 8:01�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for > >>>>>>> them. > >>>>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper. It > >>>>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they don't > >>>>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them. > >>>>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit > >>>>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc. > >>>> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform morning > >>>> affirmations in order not to kill people? > >>>> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work okay. > >>> So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a > >>> decision to kill or not to kill? > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> No, I'm saying exactly the opposite. I need not make that decision at > >> all, because I'm not filled with murderous rage. > > >> As moral decisions need to be made, I make them according to my own values.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > So you would only decide to kill someone if you were filled with > > murderous rage. A lot of serial killers seem to be the same way. > > I would've thought that would've gone without saying. Yes, to kill > someone I'd have to be seriously enraged. It generally runs contrary to > my nature. Is that somehow defective under the doctrines of your myth?- Hide quoted text - > Well, my father was a Naval pilot in World War II, and his experience seemed to be different. When he was dive bombing Japanese ships, he said he felt sorry for the men on board who had families back in Japan and probably did not want to be in a war. This would indicate that only some people kill when enraged. Most people in wars kill because they are ordered to kill by people who will enforce their orders if they are not obeyed. Robert B. Winn
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