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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:51
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
>>>>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
>>>>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
>>>>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
>>>>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
>>>>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
>>>>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
>>>>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
>>>>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
>>>>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
>>>>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
>>>>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
>>>>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
>>>>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
>>>>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
>>>>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
>>>>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
>>>>>>> Take it somewhere else.
>>>>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
>>>>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
>>>>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
>>>>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
>>>>> it.
>>>> Pride is a sin.
>>> Yes, that is correct.
>> So, you just sinned.
>>
> In what way did I sin?

Imagining that you have the ability to change atheists.  The sin?  Pride.


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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
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