Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:25

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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 17, 1:02 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 16, 12:01 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:01�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper. It
>>>>>>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they don't
>>>>>>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them.
>>>>>>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit
>>>>>>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc.
>>>>>> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform morning
>>>>>> affirmations in order not to kill people?
>>>>>> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work okay.
>>>>> So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a
>>>>> decision to kill or not to kill?
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> No, I'm saying exactly the opposite. I need not make that decision at
>>>> all, because I'm not filled with murderous rage.
>>>> As moral decisions need to be made, I make them according to my own values.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> So you would only decide to kill someone if you were filled with
>>> murderous rage.  A lot of serial killers seem to be the same way.
>> I would've thought that would've gone without saying. Yes, to kill
>> someone I'd have to be seriously enraged. It generally runs contrary to
>> my nature. Is that somehow defective under the doctrines of your myth?- Hide quoted text -
>>
> 
> Well, my father was a Naval pilot in World War II, and his experience
> seemed to be different.  When he was dive bombing Japanese ships, he
> said he felt sorry for the men on board who had families back in Japan
> and probably did not want to be in a war.  This would indicate that
> only some people kill when enraged.  Most people in wars kill because
> they are ordered to kill by people who will enforce their orders if
> they are not obeyed.

I believe that some wars are just, but I don't know if I could shoot to 
kill in one. Evidently only 2% of soldiers in WWII aimed to kill.

Standoff weapons must make it easier to kill tons of baddies without 
conscience. It's like Lockheed Martin is killing them, not you.

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