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Article #12663Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: BuddyThunder
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:56
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:56
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 16, 9:37�am, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: >> <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:28be0ed1-17c0-4089-8117-c9b9f0392293@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 15, 4:30 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Steve O wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry >>>>>> Potter >> > has >>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in >>>>>> Harry >>>>>>>>> Potter. >>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the >>>>>>>> fact >>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. >>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. >>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. >>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. >>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible >>>>>> Sheep exist today >>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Steve O >>>>> Well, no, Steve O. �Here is an example. �Atheists were claiming that >>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the >>>>> Bible. �So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? �These atheists had >>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. �So after they looked it up, they >>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be >>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go >>>>> to wizard's school. >>>> Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie) >>>> When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything >>>> in the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible, >>>> not the ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or >>>> shekels. >>>> Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims >>>> to atheists which �don't exist. >>>> You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid. >>> Both. >>> Its fairly clear our robbo is probably schizoid, probably desperately >>> confused, and probably on medication, and has access to a terminal.And >>> is not the brightest candle in the coal mine. >>> He's desperately trying to put some meaning in his life, to make some >>> sense of it, and the Bible is his latest bag. �It probably puts some >>> hope in a hopeless life. >>> He's just smart enough to see what a mess his life is, but not smart >>> enough to work out how to change it by himself: so naturally he looks >>> for help. No one has probably given him any, but the bible makes him a >>> promise. By fixating on the Jesus symbol, he at least has one constant >>> thing to cling to and some hope. In short, he is addicted to Jesus. >>> It's probably slightly better than being addicted to smack, and its >>> certainly a lot cheaper. >>> I've met more than a few robbos in my time. There's probably some >>> intelligence there, but coupled to an unusual mental condition. Such >>> peoples experience is not ordinary, and their attempts to make sense of >>> it result in some pretty weird ways of thinking about it and dealing >>> with it. Often they get involved in some cult or other. Or end up >>> prematurely dead from drug overdoses and the like. Or go off the rails >>> and start seeing visions and end up in the funny farm. >> Probably very true of rbwinn. >> When he told us that he is a welder, I actually wrote some real advise >> for him to work hard and look forward towards a retirement, instead of >> wasting time in the church on Sundays. Sundays pay thrice as much. >> However, my email could not get through... >> ==================================== >> Does anything ever 'get through' to him? >> I very much doubt it. >> >> Smiler, >> The godless one >> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > I do not plan to retire. What did you think, that I want to be > useless like an atheist? Wanting has very little to do with it.
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