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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:56
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 16, 9:37�am, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>> <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:28be0ed1-17c0-4089-8117-c9b9f0392293@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 15, 4:30 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> Steve O wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry
>>>>>> Potter >> > has
>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in
>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>>> Potter.
>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the
>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
>>>>>> Sheep exist today
>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>> Well, no, Steve O. �Here is an example. �Atheists were claiming that
>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
>>>>> Bible. �So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? �These atheists had
>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. �So after they looked it up, they
>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
>>>>> to wizard's school.
>>>> Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie)
>>>> When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything
>>>> in the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible,
>>>> not the ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or
>>>> shekels.
>>>> Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims
>>>> to atheists which �don't exist.
>>>> You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid.
>>> Both.
>>> Its fairly clear our robbo is probably schizoid, probably desperately
>>> confused, and probably on medication, and has access to a terminal.And
>>> is not the brightest candle in the coal mine.
>>> He's desperately trying to put some meaning in his life, to make some
>>> sense of it, and the Bible is his latest bag. �It probably puts some
>>> hope in a hopeless life.
>>> He's just smart enough to see what a mess his life is, but not smart
>>> enough to work out how to change it by himself: so naturally he looks
>>> for help. No one has probably given him any, but the bible makes him a
>>> promise. By fixating on the Jesus symbol, he at least has one constant
>>> thing to cling to and some hope. In short, he is addicted to Jesus.
>>> It's probably slightly better than being addicted to smack, and its
>>> certainly a lot cheaper.
>>> I've met more than a few robbos in my time. There's probably some
>>> intelligence there, but coupled to an unusual mental condition. Such
>>> peoples experience is not ordinary, and their attempts to make sense of
>>> it result in some pretty weird ways of thinking about it and dealing
>>> with it. Often they get involved in some cult or other. Or end up
>>> prematurely dead from drug overdoses and the like. Or go off the rails
>>> and start seeing visions and end up in the funny farm.
>> Probably very true of rbwinn.
>> When he told us that he is a welder, I actually wrote some real advise
>> for him to work hard and look forward towards a retirement, instead of
>> wasting time in the church on Sundays. Sundays pay thrice as much.
>> However, my email could not get through...
>> ====================================
>> Does anything ever 'get through' to him?
>> I very much doubt it.
>>
>> Smiler,
>> The godless one
>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
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> 
> I do not plan to retire.  What did you think, that I want to be
> useless like an atheist?

Wanting has very little to do with it.
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