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"BuddyThunder" <nospam@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message 
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> rbwinn wrote:
>> On Jul 14, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>> DanielSan wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?that God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. ?It just meant it was going to take place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chose to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these nails
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze
>>>>>>>>>>>> at it, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their 
>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it
>>>>>>>>>>>> really is..
>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout.
>>>>>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death,
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles
>>>>>>>>>>> suffered
>>>>>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jews
>>>>>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most
>>>>>>>>>>> clergy,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>   If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs?
>>>>>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you
>>>>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they
>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they?
>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe
>>>>>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to 
>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand?
>>>>>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen.  With regard to the
>>>>>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what
>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>> to me in this life.
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have 
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work,
>>>>>>>> because you
>>>>>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and 
>>>>>>>> walk.
>>>>>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably 
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> understand that either.
>>>>>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life?
>>>>>> Your statement abut how hard you found it.
>>>>>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia.
>>>>>> You are foregetting what you said again.
>>>>> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time.   I think
>>>>> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to
>>>>> atheists.  Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about
>>>>> medical malpractice.
>>>> Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at.
>>> I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making blanketing,
>>> bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he genuinely
>>>   believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be
>>> totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> I am doing very well at talking to atheists.  As far as I know, there
>> has never been a longer conversation than this one between atheists
>> and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon.
>
> Length is no indication of quality. Ask some women.

He doesn't know any women (that well).

Smiler,
The godless one
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