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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:49
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On Jul 17, 5:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 17, 5:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 16, 8:36 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:21 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:43�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:40 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:54 pm, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your analysis, Peter. �I was merely expanding on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement from an atheist to show where it was leading: �Atheists do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not believe anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, we believe you're a fuckin' moron... We even have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to take that as an article of faith. �The evidence isn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> compelling. �We do have evidence that he's a liar. �So he could be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> acting incredibly stupid, or more likely be stupid, it's impossible to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tell. �But the evidence for lies is overwhelming.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, we believe he's as stupid as dog shit. �But we have evidence, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> thus no need of faith, that he's a liar.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point, but I believe we have overwhelming evidence of
> >>>>>>>>>>> both. Bobby is a classic newsgroup troll who desparately craves
> >>>>>>>>>>> attention. Lying is an excellent way to get attention, although it
> >>>>>>>>>>> normally means suffering considerable ridicule and insult in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> process.
> >>>>>>>>>>> But I also believe he's rather unintelligent (as most newsgroup trolls
> >>>>>>>>>>> tend to be). He has shown a remarkable inability to absorb and integrate
> >>>>>>>>>>> new information presented to him. There's no indication he reads
> >>>>>>>>>>> anything outside of the few newsgroups he spends countless hours posting
> >>>>>>>>>>> in. And he has shown a breathtaking lack of self awareness and maturity,
> >>>>>>>>>>> whether about his ridiculous physics kookiness or his puerile religious
> >>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. Taken together these point to someone suffering from mental
> >>>>>>>>>>> illness combined with a serious cognitive impairment, or as I prefer to
> >>>>>>>>>>> think of it, he's a fuckin' moron...
> >>>>>>>>>> OK, I'll agree it's a good summary.
> >>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>> Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement,
> >>>>>>>>> Al.  You are agreeing with someone who has a weak mind.
> >>>>>>>> Being upset about a select set of simple sounds is strange to me.
> >>>>>>>> Profanity is such a non-issue for grown-ups, I'm far more interested in
> >>>>>>>> the ideas conveyed by the words. You're using the profanity to ignore
> >>>>>>>> the point.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>> You do not have a point.  You are using various ideas as an excuse to
> >>>>>>> use profanity.   It would be more honest to just leave out the ideas
> >>>>>>> and have the profanity by itself.
> >>>>>> What an odd idea. I don't believe profanity needs an excuse, it's simply
> >>>>>> a language feature that can be leveraged just like any other.
> >>>>>> The idea is still conveyed, often more forcefully. If it makes you
> >>>>>> uncomfortable and lets you avoid the point being made, then I'd have
> >>>>>> thought you'd have been grateful for the "out"!
> >>>>>> How is being profane dishonest?
> >>>>>> It's really quite normal. Even among the religious.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> Well, not quite normal.  I get tired of atheists who can be totally
> >>>>> unprofane except when they are talking to me.
> >>>>> Take it somewhere else.
> >>>> Would you like some cheese with that whine?
> >>>> If you don't like how atheists are talking to you, you can certainly
> >>>> snip our newsgroup out of your headers.
> >>> The behavior of atheists can be changed.  I just go ahead and change
> >>> it.
> >> Pride is a sin.
>
> > Yes, that is correct.
>
> So, you just sinned.
>
In what way did I sin?
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:49:31 -0700 (PDT)
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