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On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an
> >>>>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
> >>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
> >>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
> >>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
> >>> Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> >>> million people.
> >> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
> >> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
>
> >> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
> >> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
>
> >> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
> >> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that
> >> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
>
> >> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
> >> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in
> >> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that
> >> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or
> >> away from religion.
>
> >> TLA
>
> > So was this John Towland an atheist?
>
> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
> Hitler.
>
> > Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
> > with the German people.  His actions in his life show that he did not
> > believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
>
> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
> your humanity.
>
> TLA- Hide quoted text -
>
Well, I don't really see much evidence of it.  Stalin and Pol Pot were
both atheists.  But politicians who killed large numbers of people
cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.
Robert B. Winn