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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an
>>>>>>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
>>>>> Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
>>>>> million people.
>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will
>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog).
>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the
>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross.
>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who
>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that
>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes.
>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that
>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in
>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that
>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or
>>>> away from religion.
>>>> TLA
>>> So was this John Towland an atheist?
>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of
>> Hitler.
>>
>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular
>>> with the German people.  His actions in his life show that he did not
>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today.
>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who
>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've
>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and
>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this
>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more.
>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate
>> your humanity.
>>
>> TLA- Hide quoted text -
>>
> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it.  Stalin and Pol Pot were
> both atheists.  

They were also both men.  So what?

> But politicians who killed large numbers of people
> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which
> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions.

Number of abortions in United States since George W. Bush's 
inauguration: Approximately 9 million
George W. Bush's religious affiliation: Christian

What were you saying again?

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