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Article #12708Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:46
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:46
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 17, 5:32 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 16, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 16, 6:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Potter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheep exist today >>>>>>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that >>>>>>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the >>>>>>>>>>> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had >>>>>>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they >>>>>>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be >>>>>>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go >>>>>>>>>>> to wizard's school. >>>>>>>>>> The original assertion remains in force. Hezekiah's Tunnel does not >>>>>>>>>> prove anything. >>>>>>>>>>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the >>>>>>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's >>>>>>>>>>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel >>>>>>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a >>>>>>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. >>>>>>>>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists. >>>>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? >>>>>>>>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of >>>>>>>>> King's Cross Station. >>>>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you? >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings >>>>>>> Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to >>>>>>> the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel. >>>>>> ....I see. So, since the Harry Potter books do not detail the >>>>>> construction of King's Cross Station, it's not a correct analogy? >>>>>> Okay, fine. In one of the Harry Potter books, the head of the Ministry >>>>>> of Magic visits the new Prime Minister of England and informs him of the >>>>>> fight against the Dark Lord. >>>>>> Since this Harry Potter book describes the Prime Minister of England at >>>>>> the time that he got into office and, since it coincided with Tony Blair >>>>>> getting into office, that means that Harry Potter is true? >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * >>>>> Well, if you want to believe in Harry Potter, I am sure you will find >>>>> a way to do it. >>>> No, see, that's what you're NOT getting. I don't believe in Harry >>>> Potter. Harry Potter is fantasy. It's not real. And the events >>>> therein have just as much evidence as the Bible has. >>>> That is: None. >>> If atheists think something is fantasy, why is fantasy all they want >>> to discuss? >> You're the one that brought fantasy into the discussion. >> >> -- > Well, no, that is incorrect. I was discussing the theory of > relativity and Hezekiah's tunnel. Atheists always try to change the > subject to Harry Potter. No. You began discussing the Bible. THAT is when you brought fantasy into the discussion. -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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