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Article #12716Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:47
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:47
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:e6ab538c-40f9-4978-9de9-b4a5f3eb015d@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On Jul 15, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 14, 11:23 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 14, 5:12?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter > >>>>>>> has > >>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in > >>>>>>> Harry > >>>>>>> Potter. > >>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the > >>>>>> fact > >>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we > >>>>>> have > >>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > >>>>>> By your reasoning at least. > >>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > >>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > >>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > >>>> Sheep exist today > >>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God > >>>> -- > >>>> Steve O > >>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > >>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > >>> Bible. > >> And yet you've been unable to produce these mythical posts. Well, you > >> do > >> seem to like myths... > > >>> So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > >>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > >>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > >>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > >>> to wizard's school. > >> In a slightly mangled sense, yes that was me. I'd never heard of > >> Hezekiah's tunnel. Now I have. I still can't see how it supports the > >> existence of any gods. Assuming it's the same tunnel (which hasn't been > >> established AFAIK), so what? People sometimes write things about stuff. > >> Does that automatically render it true? > > >>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > >>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > >>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > >>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > >>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > >> I might point out that the physical evidence doesn't accord well with > >> the account of the tunnel's construction. Even if you're right, it's > >> simply shows that a tunnel was built, not that gods exist. > > >> If you want to infer more than is logical from this, go for it! But to > >> maintain a degree of intellectual honesty, I cannot follow.- Hide > >> quoted text - > > > Well, obviously, you have not studied the history of that time. > > Robert B. Winn > > I haven't much, and yet I still know that. Additionally, the Bible > contains some history, but doesn't qualify as a whole. It's far too > unreliable.- Hide quoted text - > Well, I understan why atheists would want to believe Sennacherib's account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea over the Biblical account, but, obviously, Sennacherib was lying. =================================== Your evidence for that assertion is??? ======================= Chaldean historians agree with the Biblical account. Sennacherib lost his entire army at Jerusalem. ========================= So? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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