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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Smiler
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:47
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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On Jul 15, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 14, 11:23 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 14, 5:12?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter 
> >>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in 
> >>>>>>> Harry
> >>>>>>> Potter.
> >>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the 
> >>>>>> fact
> >>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we 
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
> >>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
> >>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> >>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
> >>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
> >>>> Sheep exist today
> >>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
> >>>> --
> >>>> Steve O
> >>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that
> >>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
> >>> Bible.
> >> And yet you've been unable to produce these mythical posts. Well, you 
> >> do
> >> seem to like myths...
>
> >>> So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had
> >>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they
> >>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
> >>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
> >>> to wizard's school.
> >> In a slightly mangled sense, yes that was me. I'd never heard of
> >> Hezekiah's tunnel. Now I have. I still can't see how it supports the
> >> existence of any gods. Assuming it's the same tunnel (which hasn't been
> >> established AFAIK), so what? People sometimes write things about stuff.
> >> Does that automatically render it true?
>
> >>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
> >>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
> >>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
> >>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
> >>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
> >> I might point out that the physical evidence doesn't accord well with
> >> the account of the tunnel's construction. Even if you're right, it's
> >> simply shows that a tunnel was built, not that gods exist.
>
> >> If you want to infer more than is logical from this, go for it! But to
> >> maintain a degree of intellectual honesty, I cannot follow.- Hide 
> >> quoted text -
>
> > Well, obviously, you have not studied the history of that time.
> > Robert B. Winn
>
> I haven't much, and yet I still know that. Additionally, the Bible
> contains some history, but doesn't qualify as a whole. It's far too
> unreliable.- Hide quoted text -
>

Well, I understan why atheists would want to believe Sennacherib's
account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea over the Biblical account,
but, obviously, Sennacherib was lying.
===================================
Your evidence for that assertion is???
=======================
Chaldean historians agree with
the Biblical account.  Sennacherib lost his entire army at Jerusalem.
=========================
So?

Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279 
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