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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:27
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On Jul 16, 8:55 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 16, 6:06 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 15, 5:24 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
> >>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
> >>>>>>>>>>> Potter.
> >>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
> >>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
> >>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
> >>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
> >>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> >>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
> >>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
> >>>>>>>> Sheep exist today
> >>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
> >>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
> >>>>>>> Bible.  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
> >>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
> >>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
> >>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
> >>>>>>> to wizard's school.
> >>>>>> The original assertion remains in force.  Hezekiah's Tunnel does not
> >>>>>> prove anything.
> >>>>>>>    I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
> >>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
> >>>>>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
> >>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
> >>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
> >>>>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists.
> >>>>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
> >>>>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of
> >>>>> King's Cross Station.
> >>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
> >>>> --
> >>> Well, if you can provide a description of the construction of Kings
> >>> Cross station from the time it was built, maybe we could compare it to
> >>> the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel.
> >> ....I see.  So, since the Harry Potter books do not detail the
> >> construction of King's Cross Station, it's not a correct analogy?
>
> >> Okay, fine.  In one of the Harry Potter books, the head of the Ministry
> >> of Magic visits the new Prime Minister of England and informs him of the
> >> fight against the Dark Lord.
>
> >> Since this Harry Potter book describes the Prime Minister of England at
> >> the time that he got into office and, since it coincided with Tony Blair
> >> getting into office, that means that Harry Potter is true?
>
> >> --
> >> ******************************************************
> >> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
>
> > Well, if you want to believe in Harry Potter, I am sure you will find
> > a way to do it.
>
> No, see, that's what you're NOT getting.  I don't believe in Harry
> Potter.  Harry Potter is fantasy.  It's not real.   And the events
> therein have just as much evidence as the Bible has.
>
> That is:  None.
>
> --
> ******************************************************
> *          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226            *
>
If atheists think something is fantasy, why is fantasy all they want
to discuss?
Robert B. Winn
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Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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