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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 15, 6:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 14, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> DanielSan wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �that God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chose to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these nails
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflection of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at it, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really is..
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death,
>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles
>>>>>>>>>>>> suffered
>>>>>>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews
>>>>>>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most
>>>>>>>>>>>> clergy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>   If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs?
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you
>>>>>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth.
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they
>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they?
>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe
>>>>>>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you?
>>>>>>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand?
>>>>>>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen.  With regard to the
>>>>>>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what
>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>> to me in this life.
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have much
>>>>>>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack this
>>>>>>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work,
>>>>>>>>> because you
>>>>>>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and walk.
>>>>>>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably didn't
>>>>>>>>> understand that either.
>>>>>>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life?
>>>>>>> Your statement abut how hard you found it.
>>>>>>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia.
>>>>>>> You are foregetting what you said again.
>>>>>> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time.   I think
>>>>>> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to
>>>>>> atheists.  Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about
>>>>>> medical malpractice.
>>>>> Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at.
>>>> I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making blanketing,
>>>> bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he genuinely
>>>>   believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be
>>>> totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> I am doing very well at talking to atheists.  As far as I know, there
>>> has never been a longer conversation than this one between atheists
>>> and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon.
>> Sorry, but length of conversation does not equal quality of conversation.
>>
> Well, you atheists are free to end it any time.  Just take sci.physics
> and sci.physics.relativity out of the header, and nobody in these
> newsgroups will see your posts.

It's okay buddy, no need to be defensive, I have no problem with you 
posting. Just pointing out that length of thread is no indication of 
quality of discussion.