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Article #12775Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:37
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:37
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<hhyapster@gmail.com> wrote in message news:28be0ed1-17c0-4089-8117-c9b9f0392293@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... On Jul 15, 4:30 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > Steve O wrote: > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > >> On Jul 14, 5:12?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > >>> >> > Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry > >>> Potter >> > has > >>> >> > to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in > >>> Harry > >>> >> > Potter. > > >>> >> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the > >>> >> fact > >>> >> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we > >>> >> have > >>> >> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > > >>> >> By your reasoning at least. > > >>> > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > >>> > Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > >>> > Robert B. Winn > > >>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > > >>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > >>> Sheep exist today > >>> The bible is accurate and there is a God > > >>> -- > >>> Steve O > >> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > >> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > >> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > >> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > >> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > >> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > >> to wizard's school. > > > Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie) > > When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything > > in the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible, > > not the ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or > > shekels. > > Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims > > to atheists which don't exist. > > You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid. > > Both. > Its fairly clear our robbo is probably schizoid, probably desperately > confused, and probably on medication, and has access to a terminal.And > is not the brightest candle in the coal mine. > > He's desperately trying to put some meaning in his life, to make some > sense of it, and the Bible is his latest bag. It probably puts some > hope in a hopeless life. > > He's just smart enough to see what a mess his life is, but not smart > enough to work out how to change it by himself: so naturally he looks > for help. No one has probably given him any, but the bible makes him a > promise. By fixating on the Jesus symbol, he at least has one constant > thing to cling to and some hope. In short, he is addicted to Jesus. > > It's probably slightly better than being addicted to smack, and its > certainly a lot cheaper. > > I've met more than a few robbos in my time. There's probably some > intelligence there, but coupled to an unusual mental condition. Such > peoples experience is not ordinary, and their attempts to make sense of > it result in some pretty weird ways of thinking about it and dealing > with it. Often they get involved in some cult or other. Or end up > prematurely dead from drug overdoses and the like. Or go off the rails > and start seeing visions and end up in the funny farm. Probably very true of rbwinn. When he told us that he is a welder, I actually wrote some real advise for him to work hard and look forward towards a retirement, instead of wasting time in the church on Sundays. Sundays pay thrice as much. However, my email could not get through... ==================================== Does anything ever 'get through' to him? I very much doubt it. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!news.astraweb.com!border2.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!transit4.hitnews.eu!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams!news.ams.newshosting.com!npeersf01.ams!newsfe17.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism References: <6d90ncF1ev56U1@mid.individual.net> <86472cec-7b84-45e3-83fd-c0d80d7b23f3@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <48769860.5060508@osu.edu> <05d669dd-463d-4f1d-8e2a-0ba54f418e14@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <48a6b5ee-b258-4472-bff0-e2edecf8a076@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> <8a946d67-df66-454e-81c2-262855125647@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <b0d2514b-bcc4-4cc6-bc43-51ac8ec9e420@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <Lybek.14332$Zm1.11510@newsfe27.ams2> <1215933289.29330.3@proxy01.news.clara.net> <485272be-839f-4adc-9064-34726b0bef1d@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1215988736.23696.1@proxy02.news.clara.net> <44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <6e28b7F4n1inU1@mid.individual.net> <a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <6e340hF532qsU1@mid.individual.net> <1216110666.12212.0@proxy00.news.clara.net> <28be0ed1-17c0-4089-8117-c9b9f0392293@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Lines: 98 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080716-0, 16/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: <nFtfk.709$uS4.296@newsfe17.ams2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.20.115.204 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe17.ams2 1216243411 82.20.115.204 (Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:23:31 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:23:31 EDT Organization: virginmedia.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:37:15 +0100