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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 15, 6:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > On Jul 14, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >> DanielSan wrote:
>> >>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <no...@nowhere.invalid>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �that God
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> chose to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> do it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> these nails
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
>> >>>>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> reflection of
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze
>> >>>>>>>>>>> at it, and
>> >>>>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> own
>> >>>>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it
>> >>>>>>>>>>> really is..
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout.
>> >>>>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to 
>> >>>>>>>>>> death,
>> >>>>>>>>>> John
>> >>>>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles
>> >>>>>>>>>> suffered
>> >>>>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, 
>> >>>>>>>>>> Jews
>> >>>>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most
>> >>>>>>>>>> clergy,
>> >>>>>>>>>> etc.?
>> >>>>>>>>>> If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious
>> >>>>>>>>>> people
>> >>>>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs?
>> >>>>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like 
>> >>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>>> are.
>> >>>>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth.
>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they
>> >>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>> >>>>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they?
>> >>>>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to 
>> >>>>>>>>> believe
>> >>>>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or 
>> >>>>>>>>> something
>> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to 
>> >>>>>>>>> you?
>> >>>>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand?
>> >>>>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen. With regard to the
>> >>>>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what
>> >>>>>>>> happened
>> >>>>>>>> to me in this life.
>> >>>>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have 
>> >>>>>>> much
>> >>>>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack 
>> >>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work,
>> >>>>>>> because you
>> >>>>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and 
>> >>>>>>> walk.
>> >>>>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably 
>> >>>>>>> didn't
>> >>>>>>> understand that either.
>> >>>>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life?
>> >>>>> Your statement abut how hard you found it.
>> >>>>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia.
>> >>>>> You are foregetting what you said again.
>> >>>> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time. I think
>> >>>> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to
>> >>>> atheists. Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about
>> >>>> medical malpractice.
>> >>> Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at.
>> >> I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making 
>> >> blanketing,
>> >> bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he 
>> >> genuinely
>> >> believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be
>> >> totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > I am doing very well at talking to atheists. As far as I know, there
>> > has never been a longer conversation than this one between atheists
>> > and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon.
>>
>> Sorry, but length of conversation does not equal quality of conversation.
>>
> Well, you atheists are free to end it any time.  Just take sci.physics
> and sci.physics.relativity out of the header, and nobody in these
> newsgroups will see your posts.
> Robert B. Winn

Due to the lack of replies , or any protests about cross posts from anyone 
in either of those forums, I'm fairly sure that they all have you killfiled 
anyway, together with anyone who might be replying to you.

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence