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Article #12782Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Steve O
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:19
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:19
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:8297b6b8-d96e-4b18-a69a-a37f95ec6b87@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >>> On Jul 14, 8:01�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for >> >>>>> them. >> >>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper. It >> >>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they don't >> >>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them. >> >>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit >> >>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc. >> >> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform morning >> >> affirmations in order not to kill people? >> >> >> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work >> >> okay. >> >> > So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a >> > decision to kill or not to kill? >> >> Only if you BELIEVE that everything a person does is dictated by his >> choices. >> > That is what I believe. I came to that conclusion while I was > incarcerated in a V.A. hospital psychiatric ward. I could not walk, > could not talk, was given another shot of thorazine every night by the > nursing assistants, and it was starting to look to me as though I > would never get out of there. As I was contemplating my situation, a > thought that did not come from me went through my mind, Whatever you > see before you at any given time is the result of all choices you have > made up to that time. OMFG! On this we actually agree. Event plus response equals outcome, right? (e+r=a) > It was at that time that I decided to choose to get out of that > mental hospital. It took quite a while, but I did it. A lot of my > fellow patients did not. Many of them are probably still there. Ummm... you're talking about when you escaped from the mental hospital, right? >To me they did not seem to be all that insane when they would arrive at > the hospital, just sort of average people with a military background > who had done something that brought atheistic attention to > themselves. Then they would start to give them drugs. Within a short > time it was plain to see that some of them were going to spend the > rest of their lives there. > Robert B. Winn I've just realized. You ARE Jack Nicholson and you HAVE flown the cuckoo's nest. Am I right? -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
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