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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Alex W.
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:10
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"Steve O" <nospamhere@thanks.com> wrote in message 
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> "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
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>> "BuddyThunder" <nospam@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message 
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>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:01?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper. It
>>>>>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they don't
>>>>>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them.
>>>>>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit
>>>>>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc.
>>>>> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform morning
>>>>> affirmations in order not to kill people?
>>>>>
>>>>> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work 
>>>>> okay.
>>>>
>>>> So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a
>>>> decision to kill or not to kill?
>>>> Robert B. Winn
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>>> No, I'm saying exactly the opposite. I need not make that decision at 
>>> all, because I'm not filled with murderous rage.
>>>
>>> As moral decisions need to be made, I make them according to my own 
>>> values.
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>> Sort of yes, but not quite, IMO.
>> There is a level of decision-making which is sub-conscious much of the 
>> time. You probably don't realise it at the time, but when you encounter 
>> someone, there is a whole routine you go through, a checklist for 
>> friend/foe, fight/flee, us/them, relative dominance.  This does feed into 
>> any moral decisions you make regarding that person, such as whether and 
>> how much respect I accord the other person, or -- in a business 
>> setting --  how honest I will be in my dealings with him.
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> What HAVE you been reading lately, Alex?
> ;-)
> I only say this because it kind of rings a bell with me.

It does?
So Pavlov was right!!
;-)
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From: "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:10:53 +0100
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