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Article #12789Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:29
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:29
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 15, 7:16 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 15, 1:04 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry >>>>>>>>> Potter. >>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the >>>>>>>> fact >>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have >>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. >>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least. >>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. >>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. >>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible >>>>>> Sheep exist today >>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Steve O >>>>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that >>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the >>>>> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had >>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they >>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be >>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go >>>>> to wizard's school. >>>> Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie) >>>> When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything in >>>> the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible, not the >>>> ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or shekels. >>>> Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims to >>>> atheists which don't exist. >>>> You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid. >>>> -- >>>> Steve O >>>> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >>>> B.A.A.W.A. >>>> Convicted by Earthquack >>>> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence >>>>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the >>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's >>>>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel >>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a >>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. >>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Well, the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel was very remarkable. But >>> atheists do not like seeing remards about it. Why is that? >> Which atheist? Names, Bobby. Even nicknames'll do. >> > > Well, I would say all atheists. So, you were lying when you said that "atheists do not like seeing remards (sic) about it", eh? > If you run ito one that wants to talk > about Hezekiah's tunnel, let me know. I'm an atheist. Let's talk about Hezekiah's tunnel. What do you want to talk about in that subject? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
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