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On Jul 15, 6:50 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 14, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> DanielSan wrote:
> >>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 14, 2:41 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Loan Arranger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �that God
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have chafed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> chose to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> do it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get
> >>>>>>>>>>>> these nails
> >>>>>>>>>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A
> >>>>>>>>>>>> BREAK HERE!"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> TLA
> >>>>>>>>>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the
> >>>>>>>>>>> reflection of
> >>>>>>>>>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze
> >>>>>>>>>>> at it, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own
> >>>>>>>>>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it
> >>>>>>>>>>> really is..
> >>>>>>>>>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout.
> >>>>>>>>>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death,
> >>>>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles
> >>>>>>>>>> suffered
> >>>>>>>>>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews
> >>>>>>>>>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most
> >>>>>>>>>> clergy,
> >>>>>>>>>> etc.?
> >>>>>>>>>>   If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious
> >>>>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>>> get killed for their beliefs?
> >>>>>>>>> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you
> >>>>>>>>> are.
> >>>>>>>>> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth.
> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they
> >>>>>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they?
> >>>>>>>>> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe
> >>>>>>>>> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you?
> >>>>>>>>> If teh latter, would you like a hand?
> >>>>>>>> Death is something that is going to happen.  With regard to the
> >>>>>>>> hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what
> >>>>>>>> happened
> >>>>>>>> to me in this life.
> >>>>>>> I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have much
> >>>>>>> chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack this
> >>>>>>> life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work,
> >>>>>>> because you
> >>>>>>> hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and walk.
> >>>>>>> There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably didn't
> >>>>>>> understand that either.
> >>>>>> What makes you think I cannot hack this life?
> >>>>> Your statement abut how hard you found it.
> >>>>> I think you are suffereing from the early stages of dementia.
> >>>>> You are foregetting what you said again.
> >>>> Well, you try getting out of a mental institution some time.   I think
> >>>> the reason I was able to do it was because I learned to talk to
> >>>> atheists.  Whenever I would talk to psychiatrists, I would talk about
> >>>> medical malpractice.
> >>> Talking to atheists is something you're doing very poorly at.
> >> I'd be happy if he could just talk to people, without making blanketing,
> >> bigoted statements about whole groups of people. I suppose he genuinely
> >>   believes all atheists and mental health practitioners to all be
> >> totally debased moral degenerates. Bad thinking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I am doing very well at talking to atheists.  As far as I know, there
> > has never been a longer conversation than this one between atheists
> > and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon.
>
> Sorry, but length of conversation does not equal quality of conversation.
>
Well, you atheists are free to end it any time.  Just take sci.physics
and sci.physics.relativity out of the header, and nobody in these
newsgroups will see your posts.
Robert B. Winn