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Article #12828Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:36
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:36
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On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote: > > >>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > >>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com... > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year > >>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a > >>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the > >>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff > >>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children. > >>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do. > >>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two. > >>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is. > >>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and > >>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep" > >>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize > >>>>>>>>>>> one? > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>>>>> He does not even care. All he is doing is what he sees you doing. If > >>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is > >>>>>>>>>> going to lie. > >>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to. > >>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations? If he > >>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of > >>>>>>>> length contraction. > >>>>>>> What miracle? > >>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work > >>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it > >>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life. > >>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he > >>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity. > >>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in > >>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest > >>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero. So you > >>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one > >>>>>> miracle. > >>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle. > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism? > >>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into > >>>>> alt.atheism? > >>>> Most scientists of today are atheists. I was discussing the Lorentz > >>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists > >>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup. > >>>> Robert B. Winn > >>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes. But it's like saying most > >>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes. The two things aren't > >>> actually related. > >>> And you keep lying about how you started this. One fruitcake who > >>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't > >>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with > >>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving > >>> this god thing. And proceeded to lie about everyone. > >>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists > >>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics. > >> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's > >> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I think they are related also. Scientists and atheists have a > > religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction. > > liar. > Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle. Robert B. Winn
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