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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12828
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:36
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On Jul 15, 11:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
> >>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
> >>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
> >>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
> >>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
> >>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
> >>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
> >>>>>>>>>>> one?
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
> >>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
> >>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
> >>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
> >>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
> >>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
> >>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
> >>>>>>>> length contraction.
> >>>>>>> What miracle?
> >>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
> >>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
> >>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
> >>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
> >>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
> >>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> >>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> >>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> >>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> >>>>>> miracle.
> >>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> >>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
> >>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
> >>>>> alt.atheism?
> >>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
> >>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
> >>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
> >>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
> >>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
> >>> actually related.
> >>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
> >>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
> >>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
> >>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
> >>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
> >>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
> >>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
> >> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
> >> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> > religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.
>
> liar.
>
Well, OK, Natural, show how the length contraction is not a miracle.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:36:02 -0700 (PDT)
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