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Article #12831Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:42
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:42
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On Jul 15, 11:58 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 15, 1:04 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > >>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter > >>>>>>> has > >>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >>>>>>> Potter. > >>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the > >>>>>> fact > >>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > >>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > >>>>>> By your reasoning at least. > >>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > >>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > >>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > >>>> Sheep exist today > >>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God > >>>> -- > >>>> Steve O > >>> Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > >>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > >>> Bible. So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > >>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > >>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > >>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > >>> to wizard's school. > >> Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie) > >> When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything in > >> the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible, not the > >> ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or shekels. > >> Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims to > >> atheists which don't exist. > >> You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid. > > >> -- > >> Steve O > >> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > >> B.A.A.W.A. > >> Convicted by Earthquack > >> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence > > >>> I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > >>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > >>> tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > >>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > >>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > >>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel was very remarkable. But > > atheists do not like seeing remards about it. Why is that? > > I have nothing against the tunnel. No, what I dislike is your butchery > of logic.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, choose for yourself what you like or dislike. It means nothing to me. If you or any other atheist decides to discuss the tunnel, come back and do it some time without trying to change the subject to Harry Potter. Robert B. Winn
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