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Article #12844Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Alex W.
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:07
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:07
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"BuddyThunder" <nospam@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message news:487d9ce4@clear.net.nz... > rbwinn wrote: >> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> On Jul 14, 8:01?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for >>>>>> them. >>>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper. It >>>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they don't >>>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them. >>>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit >>>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc. >>> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform morning >>> affirmations in order not to kill people? >>> >>> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work >>> okay. >> >> So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a >> decision to kill or not to kill? >> Robert B. Winn > > No, I'm saying exactly the opposite. I need not make that decision at all, > because I'm not filled with murderous rage. > > As moral decisions need to be made, I make them according to my own > values. Sort of yes, but not quite, IMO. There is a level of decision-making which is sub-conscious much of the time. You probably don't realise it at the time, but when you encounter someone, there is a whole routine you go through, a checklist for friend/foe, fight/flee, us/them, relative dominance. This does feed into any moral decisions you make regarding that person, such as whether and how much respect I accord the other person, or -- in a business setting -- how honest I will be in my dealings with him.
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