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Article #12861Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:33
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:33
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On Jul 14, 11:23 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > >>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > >>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >>>>> Potter. > >>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact > >>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > >>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > >>>> By your reasoning at least. > >>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > >>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic. > > >> Sheep are mentioned in the bible > >> Sheep exist today > >> The bible is accurate and there is a God > > >> -- > >> Steve O > > Well, no, Steve O. Here is an example. Atheists were claiming that > > nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the > > Bible. > > And yet you've been unable to produce these mythical posts. Well, you do > seem to like myths... > > > So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel? These atheists had > > never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel. So after they looked it up, they > > said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be > > true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go > > to wizard's school. > > In a slightly mangled sense, yes that was me. I'd never heard of > Hezekiah's tunnel. Now I have. I still can't see how it supports the > existence of any gods. Assuming it's the same tunnel (which hasn't been > established AFAIK), so what? People sometimes write things about stuff. > Does that automatically render it true? > > > I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the > > Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's > > tunnel. Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel > > exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a > > tunnel was dug as a conduit for water. > > I might point out that the physical evidence doesn't accord well with > the account of the tunnel's construction. Even if you're right, it's > simply shows that a tunnel was built, not that gods exist. > > If you want to infer more than is logical from this, go for it! But to > maintain a degree of intellectual honesty, I cannot follow.- Hide quoted text - Well, obviously, you have not studied the history of that time. Robert B. Winn
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