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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:16
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 15, 1:04 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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>> news:a3c2b9ae-59ae-4bfd-b7cf-fcda98b26225@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
>>>>>>> Potter.
>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
>>>> Sheep exist today
>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
>>>> --
>>>> Steve O
>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
>>> Bible.  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
>>> to wizard's school.
>> Here's where you get confused every time. (or deliberately lie)
>> When they said "nothing exists on earth today that could prove anything in
>> the bible" they were talking about the SPECIAL claims in the bible, not the
>> ordinary mundane things such as tunnels, sheep, goats or shekels.
>> Yet, for some reason, you choose to lie about this and attribute claims to
>> atheists which  don't exist.
>> You are either a complete liar or you are stuck on stupid.
>>
>> --
>> Steve O
>> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
>> B.A.A.W.A.
>> Convicted by Earthquack
>> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence
>>
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>>>   I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text -
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> Well, the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel was very remarkable.  But
> atheists do not like seeing remards about it.  Why is that?

Which atheist?  Names, Bobby.  Even nicknames'll do.


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