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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#12891
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:16
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 14, 11:50 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) wrote:
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>>> On Jul 14, 10:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 13, 7:13 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:39 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
>>>>>>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
>>>>>>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda ff
>>>>>>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
>>>>>>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
>>>>>>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
>>>>>>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
>>>>>>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
>>>>>>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
>>>>>>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
>>>>>>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
>>>>>>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
>>>>>>>>>> going to lie.
>>>>>>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
>>>>>>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
>>>>>>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
>>>>>>>> length contraction.
>>>>>>> What miracle?
>>>>>>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
>>>>>>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
>>>>>>> as irrelevant to his life.
>>>>>>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
>>>>>>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
>>>>>> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
>>>>>> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
>>>>>> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
>>>>>> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
>>>>>> miracle.
>>>>>> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>> What makes you think Lorentz equations are part of atheism?
>>>>> Is it the same delusion that has you repeatedly posting garbage into
>>>>> alt.atheism?
>>>> Most scientists of today are atheists.  I was discussing the Lorentz
>>>> equations with scientists in sci.physics.relativity when you atheists
>>>> butted into the conversation in that newsgroup.
>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>> Most scientists today are atheists, yes.  But it's like saying most
>>> people with blonde hair have blue eyes.  The two things aren't
>>> actually related.
>>> And you keep lying about how you started this.  One fruitcake who
>>> claims to be both a scientist and a christian (but bizarely doesn't
>>> understand rainbows) cross-posted originally and you waded in with
>>> your lies and confusion into a topic that was already about proving
>>> this god thing.  And proceeded to lie about everyone.
>>> And now you keep using this myth you've invented about atheists
>>> posting into YOUR conversation about physics.
>> I think the two could be related. Not saying they are, I think that it's
>> likely though. Just my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> I think they are related also.  Scientists and atheists have a
> religion that believes in one miracle, length contraction.

liar.

> Robert B. Winn
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:16:39 +0100
From: The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
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