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Article #12924Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Alex W.
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:52
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:52
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"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote in message news:k40o74pg4tkilt0j8mr1lnkibela0rrgcg@4ax.com... > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:21:17 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > >> >>"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote in message >>news:72in74drr47ktr9l98raqph18ep0s1h4cp@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:25:09 -0400, Brian E. Clark >>> <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote: >>> >>>>In article <4d2a74pf351she9f40vri1ku32c7s40a9j@ >>>>4ax.com>, Antares 531 said... >>>> >>>>> Fulfillment of prophecies is the most convincing "evidence" for the >>>>> reliability of the Bible, >>>> >>>>Most convincing of all are those prophecies written >>>>after the events they predict. >>>> >>> Bryan, I see your point, but I maintain that there are many Biblical >>> prophecies that were written LONG before they were fulfilled, and the >>> history/dating can not have been manipulated. Even if the dating of, >>> say the prophecies of Daniel can be argued a bit, it can't be >>> stretched to a date later than the time of Jesus's life. If you >>> haven't already done so, please visit this site and check some of >>> these items out. >> >>There is no need to "stretch" anything when you are dealing with a work of >>multiple authors writing over a millennium or two. You take it on trust, >>pure and simple. >> >>Moreover, those prophesies are really quite vague (part of their intrinsic >>nature). Any major religion has predictions about the appearance of a >>redeemer figure, about salvation and whatnot. You merely latched onto >>Jesus -- it might just as well have been Mohammed, Bab, Baha'u'llah or a >>host of others. >> > Alex, I've seen this rebuttal before but I've never had anyone point > out to me any list of successfully filled complex prophecies other > than those revealed in the Bible. Can you please direct me to a source > such as this one, but for some of the other major religions? > > http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/prophecy.shtml > http://bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/ http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_prophecies.shtml http://www.alislam.org/library/articles/prophecies.html http://allreligionsprophecies.com/default.aspx
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