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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:01
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DanielSan wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
>> On Jul 14, 8:27 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... 
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry 
>>>>>>>> Potter has
>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in 
>>>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>>> Potter.
>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, 
>>>>>>> the fact
>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
>>>>> Sheep exist today
>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Steve O
>>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
>>>> Bible.  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
>>>> to wizard's school.
>>> The original assertion remains in force.  Hezekiah's Tunnel does not
>>> prove anything.
>>>
>>>>    I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
>>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
>>> For the same reason that King's Cross Station exists.
>>>
>>> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?
>>>
>> There is nothing in the Book of 2 Chronicles about the construction of
>> King's Cross Station.
> 
> Wow, you REALLY aren't getting the analogy, are you?

After nearly six thousand posts, and having the parallel explained in 
literally dozens of different ways, the point has still not been 
grasped. I think it's "dangerous thinking" for Robert to even sensibly 
dwell on.
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