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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: BuddyThunder
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:15
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 14, 2:51 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 13, 3:42 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 12:17 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 6:33�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:5cb50cba-4ba0-439e-b696-171329756f9a@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 8:32?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 8:08 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:54:03 +0100, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:a122c089-a15c-4a1f-9e0c-9f988874845c@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 11:00 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 8:24?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean there isn't any evidence he existed and it upsets you that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists notice this fact...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could care less what atheists do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===========================
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then WTF do you reply to us?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The godless one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a.a.# 2279
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not speaking for Robert, but my replies aren't to you, or to any
>>>>>>>>>>>> specific atheist. My replies are intended for other readers who
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't yet passed the point of no return, and might be looking for
>>>>>>>>>>>> insights from a Christian's perspective. ? Gordon
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you wish to return to the dark age when everything was barbaric.
>>>>>>>>>>> The Christian perspective as as evil as human can imagine....the
>>>>>>>>>>> killing of non-believers, the slavery, the slaughter of Indians in
>>>>>>>>>>> North/South America for their lands, the conquest of Iraq for its
>>>>>>>>>>> oil...
>>>>>>>>>>> Do we need to forward more examples?
>>>>>>>>>>> And what about the sins of greed, murder planted by your god? You
>>>>>>>>>>> can't pick goodies for god and badies ?not from god. I guess you will
>>>>>>>>>>> be just as hypocrite to pick and choose.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>> Well, you are certainly welcome to your own opinion of me.
>>>>>>>>>> ==============================
>>>>>>>>>> The general opinion of you in a.a. is that you're a pig-ignorant, obnoxious,
>>>>>>>>>> rude, cowardly, lying moron without the intelligence (or is it honesty?) to
>>>>>>>>>> understand a simple concept. You have no concept of logic or the real world
>>>>>>>>>> outside your religion.
>>>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>>>> It seems strange to me that you would want to talk to someone you
>>>>>>>>> believe is the way you describe me.  What causes you to keep making
>>>>>>>>> these posts?
>>>>>>>> its scientific research. Its not often you get the chance to probe the
>>>>>>>> depths of human delusion, stupidity and cupidity to the extent that you
>>>>>>>> offer.
>>>>>>> I see.  You probably say something similar about looking at
>>>>>>> pornography.
>>>>>> Whilst I admit that talking to you is somewhat akin to conversing with a
>>>>>> paedophile, I personally haven't seen any pornography since I had tea
>>>>>> with a gay christian, whose rent boy pulled it all out from under the
>>>>>> sofa to show us 'what we get up to'..
>>>>>> That was in my time of hanging ou with the London society of the Golden
>>>>>> Dawn. Started by that great ex (plymouth Brethren) christian, Aleister
>>>>>> Crowley.
>>>>>> sadly on all counts it was a waste of time.
>>>>>  Uh huh.  Well, I was not asking for details of your sins.  They do
>>>>> not interest me.
>>>> That's because you are an utterly selfish person.
>>>> If you were not interested in my so called sins, why did you make te
>>>> statement:-
>>>>  >>> I see.  You probably say something similar about looking at
>>>>  >>> pornography.
>> No. I am referring to them as 'so called' sins. That is sins as defined
>> by YOU.
>>
>>> So are you admitting that you have sins?  This would be a first for an
>>> atheist.  All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins
>>> because whatever they do is not sin.
>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is
>> meaningless. In absolute terms.
>>
> Right.  Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12
> million people.
> Robert B. Winn

Amoral =/= sin to non-religious people. It's no less objectionable though.
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