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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:16
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On Jul 14, 10:16�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> Antares 531 wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:21:17 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> >> "Antares 531" <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote in message
> >>news:72in74drr47ktr9l98raqph18ep0s1h4cp@4ax.com...
> >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:25:09 -0400, Brian E. Clark
> >>> <re...@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
>
> >>>> In article <4d2a74pf351she9f40vri1ku32c7s40a9j@
> >>>> 4ax.com>, Antares 531 said...
>
> >>>>> Fulfillment of prophecies is the most convincing "evidence" for the
> >>>>> reliability of the Bible,
> >>>> Most convincing of all are those prophecies written
> >>>> after the events they predict.
>
> >>> Bryan, I see your point, but I maintain that there are many Biblical
> >>> prophecies that were written LONG before they were fulfilled, and the
> >>> history/dating can not have been manipulated. Even if the dating of,
> >>> say the prophecies of Daniel can be argued a bit, it can't be
> >>> stretched to a date later than the time of Jesus's life. If you
> >>> haven't already done so, please visit this site and check some of
> >>> these items out.
> >> There is no need to "stretch" anything when you are dealing with a work of
> >> multiple authors writing over a millennium or two. �You take it on trust,
> >> pure and simple.
>
> >> Moreover, those prophesies are really quite vague (part of their intrinsic
> >> nature). �Any major religion has predictions about the appearance of a
> >> redeemer figure, about salvation and whatnot. �You merely latched onto
> >> Jesus -- it might just as well have been Mohammed, Bab, Baha'u'llah or a
> >> host of others.
>
> > Alex, I've seen this rebuttal before but I've never had anyone point
> > out to me any list of successfully filled complex prophecies other
> > than those revealed in the Bible. Can you please direct me to a source
> > such as this one, but for some of the other major religions?
>
> Nor fr religion, no, but try Newtons 'Principia' for a book of
> prophecies �that always get fulfilled pretty much to the letter.
>
>
>
> >http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/prophecy.shtml
>
> > Gordon- Hide quoted text -
>
Scientists of today do not like that book.
They say they have disproven it.
Robert B. Winn
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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