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Article #12970Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:16
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:16
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On Jul 14, 10:16�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > Antares 531 wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:21:17 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> > > wrote: > > >> "Antares 531" <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote in message > >>news:72in74drr47ktr9l98raqph18ep0s1h4cp@4ax.com... > >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:25:09 -0400, Brian E. Clark > >>> <re...@newsgroup.only.please> wrote: > > >>>> In article <4d2a74pf351she9f40vri1ku32c7s40a9j@ > >>>> 4ax.com>, Antares 531 said... > > >>>>> Fulfillment of prophecies is the most convincing "evidence" for the > >>>>> reliability of the Bible, > >>>> Most convincing of all are those prophecies written > >>>> after the events they predict. > > >>> Bryan, I see your point, but I maintain that there are many Biblical > >>> prophecies that were written LONG before they were fulfilled, and the > >>> history/dating can not have been manipulated. Even if the dating of, > >>> say the prophecies of Daniel can be argued a bit, it can't be > >>> stretched to a date later than the time of Jesus's life. If you > >>> haven't already done so, please visit this site and check some of > >>> these items out. > >> There is no need to "stretch" anything when you are dealing with a work of > >> multiple authors writing over a millennium or two. �You take it on trust, > >> pure and simple. > > >> Moreover, those prophesies are really quite vague (part of their intrinsic > >> nature). �Any major religion has predictions about the appearance of a > >> redeemer figure, about salvation and whatnot. �You merely latched onto > >> Jesus -- it might just as well have been Mohammed, Bab, Baha'u'llah or a > >> host of others. > > > Alex, I've seen this rebuttal before but I've never had anyone point > > out to me any list of successfully filled complex prophecies other > > than those revealed in the Bible. Can you please direct me to a source > > such as this one, but for some of the other major religions? > > Nor fr religion, no, but try Newtons 'Principia' for a book of > prophecies �that always get fulfilled pretty much to the letter. > > > > >http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/prophecy.shtml > > > Gordon- Hide quoted text - > Scientists of today do not like that book. They say they have disproven it. Robert B. Winn
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