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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:16
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Antares 531 wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:21:17 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> "Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote in message 
>> news:72in74drr47ktr9l98raqph18ep0s1h4cp@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:25:09 -0400, Brian E. Clark
>>> <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <4d2a74pf351she9f40vri1ku32c7s40a9j@
>>>> 4ax.com>, Antares 531 said...
>>>>
>>>>> Fulfillment of prophecies is the most convincing "evidence" for the
>>>>> reliability of the Bible,
>>>> Most convincing of all are those prophecies written
>>>> after the events they predict.
>>>>
>>> Bryan, I see your point, but I maintain that there are many Biblical
>>> prophecies that were written LONG before they were fulfilled, and the
>>> history/dating can not have been manipulated. Even if the dating of,
>>> say the prophecies of Daniel can be argued a bit, it can't be
>>> stretched to a date later than the time of Jesus's life. If you
>>> haven't already done so, please visit this site and check some of
>>> these items out.
>> There is no need to "stretch" anything when you are dealing with a work of 
>> multiple authors writing over a millennium or two.  You take it on trust, 
>> pure and simple.
>>
>> Moreover, those prophesies are really quite vague (part of their intrinsic 
>> nature).  Any major religion has predictions about the appearance of a 
>> redeemer figure, about salvation and whatnot.  You merely latched onto 
>> Jesus -- it might just as well have been Mohammed, Bab, Baha'u'llah or a 
>> host of others. 
>>
> Alex, I've seen this rebuttal before but I've never had anyone point
> out to me any list of successfully filled complex prophecies other
> than those revealed in the Bible. Can you please direct me to a source
> such as this one, but for some of the other major religions?
> 

Nor fr religion, no, but try Newtons 'Principia' for a book of 
prophecies  that always get fulfilled pretty much to the letter.


> http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/prophecy.shtml
> 
> Gordon
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