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Article #13029Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Smiler
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:27
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:27
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message news:3b25de14-589a-476f-b593-e7d06e72c269@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... On Jul 13, 8:17?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 13, 10:24 am, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:1c80751f-d62b-4476-9127-9f62df713eaa@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > > On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > > > The Loan Arranger wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > >> On Jul 9, 3:52?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > > > >>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean ?that God > > > >>>> approved of it. ?It just meant it was going to take place. > > > >>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really have > > > >>> chafed. > > > > >> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he chose > > > >> to > > > >> do it. > > > > > "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get these > > > > nails > > > > out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A BREAK > > > > HERE!" > > > > > TLA > > > > The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the reflection > > > of > > > the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze at it, > > > and > > > teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own > > > reflections, they don't get frightened to death. > > > > Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it really is.. > > > Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout. > > > So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death, John > > the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles suffered > > martyrs' deaths, > > ==================================== > > Where did John the Baptist, Jesus and his apostles appear in the OT? > > You don't know your own wholly babble too well, do you? > > ========================================== > > > ?religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews > > ====================================== > > and muslims were also burned at the stake during the inquisition. > > ==================================== > > > were put in extermination camps > > =================================== > > for being Jews, not for their religious beliefs. Atheists or christians > > of > > Jewish descent were not spared. > > ========================================== > > > ?Communist regimes killed most clergy, > > ================================== > > again, not for their beliefs, but for being against the government. > > What about the communist clergy in South America? > > ====================================== > > etc.? > > > ? If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious people > > get killed for their beliefs? > > ====================================== > > ?If religion is based on such a wholesome story, why do so many > > religious > > people > > kill for their beliefs? > > > Smiler, > > The godless one > > a.a.# 2279 > > Rather, if the god is real, why is he powerless to prevent the killing > of his followers? > In bible and in the minds of all theists, their god is neither there > nor capable to do anything. > Otherwise, this world will only have one religion.... and no atheists. > But this is beyond rbwinn's ability to understand; or he wouldn't come > to the conclusion that religious people get killed for their belief. > (Again a bullshit point from a lying bastard).- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - God is not powerless to stop the killing of his followers. He does it all the time. However, when the time comes that someone's work on earth is done, the wicked are allowed to do what they want to do. Notice that the wicked tried to kill Jesus Christ several times during his life,. but were unable to do it until he had accomplished the Atonement in the Garden of Gethsemane. Then they were able to crucify him. His work on earth was finished. ============================= Harry Potter is not powerless to stop the killing of his followers. He does it all the time. However, when the time comes that someone's work on earth is done, the wicked are allowed to do what they want to do. Notice that the wicked tried to kill Harry Potter several times during his life,. but were unable to do it until he had accomplished the broomstick flying at Hogwarts. Then they were able to put a spell on him. His magic was finished. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 102f53,dac8026861d35fee X-Google-Thread: f442a,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Thread: 116469,d932fee6d9806ab9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,gid102f53,gidf442a,gid116469,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ramfeed1.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!69.16.177.246.MISMATCH!cyclone03.ams!news.ams.newshosting.com!npeersf01.ams!newsfe29.ams2.POSTED!7564ea0f!not-for-mail From: "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism References: <1215166519.23766.3@proxy01.news.clara.net> <58898c9c-aad4-4d16-8b51-5ee0f0b2a835@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <6d9027F1f7h5U1@mid.individual.net> <10ce2a97-5663-43dd-bb2e-86940cdbecd7@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <619f4752-f08b-4242-a03e-1112728dc0ae@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <37b94f5b-1a0c-4df3-9d0f-e82aac70f161@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <ad3574do004i50e72i44nc6ip0418d1qhf@4ax.com> <95c828f3-5f15-4bcf-8d21-0f64bf42e541@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <mPGdnWQjyPLiBenVnZ2dnUVZ8uWdnZ2d@bt.com> <cc019e1d-497b-42dc-bd20-3982b87a7053@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <78udnYDEGockiuTVnZ2dnUVZ8hydnZ2d@posted.plusnet> <1215896136.28189.0@proxy00.news.clara.net> <1c80751f-d62b-4476-9127-9f62df713eaa@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <UHdek.207784$312.40229@newsfe12.ams2> <e0f09ac2-3bd8-4577-bbd2-8581b84debdb@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <3b25de14-589a-476f-b593-e7d06e72c269@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists? Lines: 117 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080714-0, 14/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: <1zWek.20$5A2.11@newsfe29.ams2> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.20.115.204 X-Complaints-To: http://netreport.virginmedia.com X-Trace: newsfe29.ams2 1216099645 82.20.115.204 (Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:27:25 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:27:25 EDT Organization: virginmedia.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:27:07 +0100