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Article #13054Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Antares 531
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:31
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:31
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:57:14 -0700, DanielSan <danielsan@speakeasy.net> wrote: > (snip) > >Antares 531 wrote: >> >> This mortal phase of our existence is temporary, and is primarily a >> means for learning about sin and rebellion. We learn jointly and >> separately about sin and rebellion, and when we've moved on to >> immortal existence we should never want to go back and explore it any >> further. Gordon > >There is no evidence of this "immortal existence", is there? > Daniel, there is no objective proof, and the only source of evidence is the Bible, but this can be rejected if one chooses to do so. The problem reduces to one of ferreting out the basic information given in the Bible and checking this against our reasonably well understood scientific information. There is no conflict between science and the Bible except in the minds of those who don't adequately understand one or the other or both of these sources of information. The best approach I can suggest is to learn about quantum entanglements and Superstring-Membrane theory (SSM). The information provided in these two subject areas lends a lot of support to the "evidence" provided in the Bible. As a starter, let me suggest reading Brian Clegg's book, The God Effect. ISBN 978-0-312-34341-5 This is a very well written book on quantum entanglement phenomenon. It is a verbal discussion, not a mathematics/physics text format. This book is easy for anyone with a fundamental education to understand. The cover jacket, inside the front cover, reads; What is entanglement: It's a connection between quantum particles, the building blocks of the universe. Once two particles are entangled, a change to one of them is reflected - instantly - in the other, be they in the same lab or light-years apart. So counterintuitive is this phenomenon and its implications that Einstein himself called it "spooky" and thought that it would lead to the downfall of quantum theory. Yet scientists have since discovered that quantum entanglement, the "God Effect," was one of Einstein's few - and perhaps one of his greatest - mistakes. Check with your local library and see if they have a copy of this book. It is worth reading, and I am firmly convinced that the information and ideas discussed in this and other such books overlaps and corroborates the information given us in the Bible. Gordon
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