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On Jul 13, 9:47 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 14, 8:25 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 13, 3:02 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
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> > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > On Jul 12, 11:53 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>> On Jul 11, 5:18�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> "The Natural Philosopher" <a...@b.c> wrote in messagenews:1215765710.4836.0@proxy02.news.clara.net...
> > > >>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > > >>>>>>>>news:08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > > >>>>>>>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all.
> > > >>>>>>> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the
> > > >>>>>>> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying to
> > > >>>>>>> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in.
> > > >>>>>>> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe,
> > > >>>>>>> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal
> > > >>>>>>> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to think.
> > > >>>>>>> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to maintain
> > > >>>>>>> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason.
> > > >>>>>>> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events moved
> > > >>>>>>> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the
> > > >>>>>>> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty
> > > >>>>>>> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned out
> > > >>>>>>> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and
> > > >>>>>>> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all.
> > > >>>>>>> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith,
> > > >>>>>>> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not a
> > > >>>>>>> Good Thing for people and civilisations.
> > > >>>>>>> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of
> > > >>>>>>> necessity be true.
> > > >>>>>>> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the Force
> > > >>>>>>> of Gravity.
> > > >>>>>>> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no
> > > >>>>>>> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that has
> > > >>>>>>> pragmatic use will do.
> > > >>>>>>> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense.
> > > >>>>>>> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the
> > > >>>>>>> useless, long past its sell-by date.
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> > > >>>>>>>> ..... other than get on with our lives ....- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >>>>>> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no
> > > >>>>>> problem with that.
> > > >>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > >>>>> And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted?
> > > >>>> You expect relevance from this moron?
> > > >>>> He can't even manage coherence, logic or truth.
> > > >>>> Smiler,
> > > >>>> The godless one
> > > >>>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >>> Atheists believe that intelligence is nothing more than electrical
> > > >>> impulses.
> > > >> No, they do not. Another lie from the Prince of Lies.
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> > > > Your problem, Natural, is the same problem that all atheists have.
> > > > You never say anything.
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> > > Well at lest that absolves me from the sin of lying eh Robbo.
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> > > Wheres you sin ever time you open your mouth,. and end up saying nothing
> > > as its simply bullshit when you do.
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> > Well, Satan is capable of saying that anything whatsoever is a lie.
> > To atheists and evil spirits that is what constitutes freedom.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> You mean satan is like you among the honest human, telling lies and
> does not buy what atheist says?
> Also, don't forget satan is staying with your god(claimed by you),
> which means your god is incapable of stopping his lying, right?- Hide quoted text -
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Atheists get all of their information from Satan.  Satan is not
staying with God.  He is staying with humans on earth.  Satan will be
bound when Jesus Christ returns at the beginning of the millenium and
will not tell any more lies for a thousand years.
Robert B. Winn
Robert B. Winn