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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 13, 9:47 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jul 14, 8:25 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 13, 3:02 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 12, 11:53 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 5:18�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "The Natural Philosopher" <a...@b.c> wrote in messagenews:1215765710.4836.0@proxy02.news.clara.net...
>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the
>>>>>>>>>>> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying to
>>>>>>>>>>> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in.
>>>>>>>>>>> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe,
>>>>>>>>>>> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal
>>>>>>>>>>> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to think.
>>>>>>>>>>> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to maintain
>>>>>>>>>>> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events moved
>>>>>>>>>>> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the
>>>>>>>>>>> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned out
>>>>>>>>>>> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and
>>>>>>>>>>> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith,
>>>>>>>>>>> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not a
>>>>>>>>>>> Good Thing for people and civilisations.
>>>>>>>>>>> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of
>>>>>>>>>>> necessity be true.
>>>>>>>>>>> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the Force
>>>>>>>>>>> of Gravity.
>>>>>>>>>>> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no
>>>>>>>>>>> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that has
>>>>>>>>>>> pragmatic use will do.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the
>>>>>>>>>>> useless, long past its sell-by date.
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>>>>>>>>>> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no
>>>>>>>>>> problem with that.
>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>> And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted?
>>>>>>>> You expect relevance from this moron?
>>>>>>>> He can't even manage coherence, logic or truth.
>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>>> The godless one
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>>>>>>> Atheists believe that intelligence is nothing more than electrical
>>>>>>> impulses.
>>>>>> No, they do not. Another lie from the Prince of Lies.
>>>>> Your problem, Natural, is the same problem that all atheists have.
>>>>> You never say anything.
>>>> Well at lest that absolves me from the sin of lying eh Robbo.
>>>> Wheres you sin ever time you open your mouth,. and end up saying nothing
>>>> as its simply bullshit when you do.
>>> Well, Satan is capable of saying that anything whatsoever is a lie.
>>> To atheists and evil spirits that is what constitutes freedom.
>>> Robert B. Winn
>> You mean satan is like you among the honest human, telling lies and
>> does not buy what atheist says?
>> Also, don't forget satan is staying with your god(claimed by you),
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> Atheists get all of their information from Satan.  

Well, since atheists don't believe in Satan...

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