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Article #13093Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:34
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:34
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On Jul 14, 8:55 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:08:07 -0700 (PDT), hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >On Jul 14, 6:08 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote: > >> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:48:24 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >On Jul 13, 8:59?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:fce52eb2-02a8-4a79-b2c0-2710b322680b@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > > >> (snip) > > >> >> Does everyone get to speak to Jesus when he returns? > >> >> I mean, more than 6 billion people on the planet, let's say he gives each > >> >> one about three minutes of his time...hmmmm...thats 18,000,000,000 minutes, > >> >> or 300,000,000 hours.....holy shit! that means it'll take him almost 35,000 > >> >> years before he gets around to talking to me if he starts alphabetically. > >> >> I'll be in for a long wait, won't I? > > >> >> -- > >> >Well, time is relative. A day to the Lord is like a thousand years to > >> >man, and a thousand years as a day. > >> >Robert B. Winn > > >> This is quite true but there is more to it than is given in this > >> simile. The temporal dimension we perceive (time) is not the same as > >> God's temporal dimension (eternity). These are both temporal > >> dimensions, but, like north and east, they are different, independent > >> dimensions. > > >> Those things God did in an instant from His eternity temporal > >> reference may span billions of years in our time temporal reference. > >> Gordon > > >So, all things are different in your god's perspective....pls tell > >every one here how is that useful for human, then? > >This is exactly what I have said, the god's heaven is for god, what > >has that got to do with human? > > This mortal phase of our existence is temporary, and is primarily a > means for learning about sin and rebellion. We learn jointly and > separately about sin and rebellion, and when we've moved on to > immortal existence we should never want to go back and explore it any > further. Gordon OK, I know what you mean. However, we do not believe that there is a human world and a virtual world. When human die, there is no spirit or soul that depart from our body to stay "alive" immortally. Its just a wishful thinking. Also, you would not know what condition existed in the virtual world....it may really be a "hell" to you spirit. But since no one ever come back to tell, you assume it to be there and to be able to enjoy. This is what I called a great flaw in your thinking.
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