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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:01
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On Jul 14, 2:49 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 13, 3:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 13, 12:13�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >>>> Smiler wrote:
> >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:b0d2514b-bcc4-4cc6-bc43-51ac8ec9e420@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> On Jul 11, 8:16 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 11, 12:33 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 10, 8:47?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 7:16 am, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for
> >>>>>>>>>>> anything. That seems to fit well with my own position,
> >>>>>>>>>>> although we do arrive there from very different
> >>>>>>>>>>> directions.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when
> >>>>>>>>>>> you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God
> >>>>>>>>>>> is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is
> >>>>>>>>>>> responsible for everything.
> >>>>>>>>>>> There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>> you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the conscience?
> >>>>>>>>>> Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God
> >>>>>>>>>> should be indicted for murder because natural deaths
> >>>>>>>>>> occur. ?Which court do you plan to file that case in?
> >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>> : And God spake all these words, saying,
> >>>>>>>>> : I am the LORD thy God,
> >>>>>>>>> : which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt,
> >>>>>>>>> : out of the house of bondage.
> >>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
> >>>>>>>>> : [...]
> >>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
> >>>>>>>>> : [...]
> >>>>>>>>> Exodus 20:1-3,16
> >>>>>>>>> Just a reminder.
> >>>>>>>>> You know, it's kind of sad how you can only defend
> >>>>>>>>> your beliefs by lying -- which is the same, of
> >>>>>>>>> course, as admitting you can't defend them at all.
> >>>>>>>>> Jim Burns
> >>>>>>>> Funny, now all pastors and preachers are say: Thou shalt give me all
> >>>>>>>> your money.....
> >>>>>>>> Which is the reason why the US TV preachers own big villa, jet plane,
> >>>>>>>> bodyguards, women....- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Well, those people represent themselves and their own financial
> >>>>>>> interests. They are basically con men.
> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>> Are you saying those many people get conned easily?
> >>>> Sure. GW Bus=h got elected didn't he? Living proof of the adage that you
> >>>> can fool most of the people most of the time. Especially naive Xtians.
> >>>>>> Much like you want to con us into believing your non-existed god and
> >>>>>> Jesus, so that we would donate some money to treat your sickness?- Hide
> >>>>>> quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> I told you from the beginning to decide for yourself what you
> >>>>> believe.
> >>>>> Matthew 7:22 � Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we
> >>>>> not prophewsied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and
> >>>>> in thy name done many wonderful works?
> >>>>> 23 �And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: �depart from
> >>>>> me, ye that work iniquity.
> >>>> I think that means Robbo. He is patently a satanist.
> >>>>> ============================================
> >>>>> Harry Potter left from platform 9 &3/4 to go to Hogwarts wizard school.
> >>>>> That makes as much sense as you wholly babble quotations.
> >>>> well at lest its more amusing to read, and no one require that you
> >>>> believe it to be literally true..
> >>> Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately.
> >> Actually I have.
>
> >>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
> >>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
> >>> Potter.
> >> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
> >> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
> >> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>
> >> By your reasoning at least.
>
> > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
> > Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
>
> It means that your thinking has no logic.
>
> ergo rational argument with someone who has no logic, and will lie
> freely and easily  and evade all responsibility for it by changing the
> subject and picking random statements, taking them out of context and
> rearranging them to seem to mean what he wants them to mean, is not
> possible.
>
> In short you do with any comments or reasonable arguments the same that
> you have done to the Bible, you profane it by rearranging it to seem to
> mean what you want it to mean, using lies and evasions every time the
> hypocritical contradictions in your worldview become obvious.
>
> In short you are the sorriest example of a self avowed Christian it has
> ever been my misfortune to meet. You are a complete disrace to your
> society, your country, and your religion, and ultimately the human race.
>
>
Well, you are certainly welcome to your own opinion.  I do not pay
much attention to it myself.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:01:35 -0700 (PDT)
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