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Article #13112Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:01
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:01
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On Jul 14, 2:49 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 13, 3:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 13, 12:13�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>> Smiler wrote: > >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>news:b0d2514b-bcc4-4cc6-bc43-51ac8ec9e420@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>>>> On Jul 11, 8:16 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>> On Jul 11, 12:33 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 10, 8:47?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 7:16 am, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for > >>>>>>>>>>> anything. That seems to fit well with my own position, > >>>>>>>>>>> although we do arrive there from very different > >>>>>>>>>>> directions. > >>>>>>>>>>> Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet. > >>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when > >>>>>>>>>>> you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God > >>>>>>>>>>> is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is > >>>>>>>>>>> responsible for everything. > >>>>>>>>>>> There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe > >>>>>>>>>>> you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for > >>>>>>>>>>> the conscience? > >>>>>>>>>> Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God > >>>>>>>>>> should be indicted for murder because natural deaths > >>>>>>>>>> occur. ?Which court do you plan to file that case in? > >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>> : And God spake all these words, saying, > >>>>>>>>> : I am the LORD thy God, > >>>>>>>>> : which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, > >>>>>>>>> : out of the house of bondage. > >>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt have no other gods before me. > >>>>>>>>> : [...] > >>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. > >>>>>>>>> : [...] > >>>>>>>>> Exodus 20:1-3,16 > >>>>>>>>> Just a reminder. > >>>>>>>>> You know, it's kind of sad how you can only defend > >>>>>>>>> your beliefs by lying -- which is the same, of > >>>>>>>>> course, as admitting you can't defend them at all. > >>>>>>>>> Jim Burns > >>>>>>>> Funny, now all pastors and preachers are say: Thou shalt give me all > >>>>>>>> your money..... > >>>>>>>> Which is the reason why the US TV preachers own big villa, jet plane, > >>>>>>>> bodyguards, women....- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> Well, those people represent themselves and their own financial > >>>>>>> interests. They are basically con men. > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>> Are you saying those many people get conned easily? > >>>> Sure. GW Bus=h got elected didn't he? Living proof of the adage that you > >>>> can fool most of the people most of the time. Especially naive Xtians. > >>>>>> Much like you want to con us into believing your non-existed god and > >>>>>> Jesus, so that we would donate some money to treat your sickness?- Hide > >>>>>> quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> I told you from the beginning to decide for yourself what you > >>>>> believe. > >>>>> Matthew 7:22 � Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we > >>>>> not prophewsied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and > >>>>> in thy name done many wonderful works? > >>>>> 23 �And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: �depart from > >>>>> me, ye that work iniquity. > >>>> I think that means Robbo. He is patently a satanist. > >>>>> ============================================ > >>>>> Harry Potter left from platform 9 &3/4 to go to Hogwarts wizard school. > >>>>> That makes as much sense as you wholly babble quotations. > >>>> well at lest its more amusing to read, and no one require that you > >>>> believe it to be literally true.. > >>> Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately. > >> Actually I have. > > >>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > >>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >>> Potter. > >> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact > >> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > >> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > > >> By your reasoning at least. > > > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > > Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. > > It means that your thinking has no logic. > > ergo rational argument with someone who has no logic, and will lie > freely and easily and evade all responsibility for it by changing the > subject and picking random statements, taking them out of context and > rearranging them to seem to mean what he wants them to mean, is not > possible. > > In short you do with any comments or reasonable arguments the same that > you have done to the Bible, you profane it by rearranging it to seem to > mean what you want it to mean, using lies and evasions every time the > hypocritical contradictions in your worldview become obvious. > > In short you are the sorriest example of a self avowed Christian it has > ever been my misfortune to meet. You are a complete disrace to your > society, your country, and your religion, and ultimately the human race. > > Well, you are certainly welcome to your own opinion. I do not pay much attention to it myself. Robert B. Winn
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