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Article #13128Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:09
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:09
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On Jul 13, 3:28 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 13, 12:05 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >>>> The Loan Arranger wrote: > >>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean �that God > >>>>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place. > >>>>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really have chafed. > >>>>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he chose to > >>>>>> do it. > >>>>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get these nails > >>>>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A BREAK HERE!" > >>>>> TLA > >>>> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the reflection of > >>>> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze at it, and > >>>> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own > >>>> reflections, they don't get frightened to death. > >>>> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it really is.. > >>>> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout. > >>> So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death, John > >>> the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles suffered > >>> martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews > >>> were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most clergy, > >>> etc.? > >>> If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious people > >>> get killed for their beliefs? > >> Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you are. > >> Plenty of people die rather than face the truth. > > >> Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they shouldn't > >> complain if someone helps them along the way, should they? > > >> Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe > >> anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something that > >> is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you? > > >> If teh latter, would you like a hand? > > > Death is something that is going to happen. With regard to the > > hereafter, what happens there is bound to be better than what happened > > to me in this life. > > I wouldn't bet on it: If you cant hack this life, you dont have much > chance in hacking the hereafter. Perhaps the reason you cant hack this > life is you spent it clinging to something that didn't work, because you > hadn't the courage to throw away your crutches, and get up and walk. > There's a bit about that in the bible as well. But you probably didn't > understand that either. > What makes you think I cannot hack this life? Robert B. Winn
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