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Article #13132Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:29
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:29
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On Jul 13, 3:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 13, 12:13�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > >> Smiler wrote: > >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>news:b0d2514b-bcc4-4cc6-bc43-51ac8ec9e420@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >>> On Jul 11, 8:16 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Jul 11, 12:33 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 10, 8:47?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>> On Jul 11, 7:16 am, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: > >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for > >>>>>>>>> anything. That seems to fit well with my own position, > >>>>>>>>> although we do arrive there from very different > >>>>>>>>> directions. > >>>>>>>>> Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet. > >>>>>>>>> Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when > >>>>>>>>> you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God > >>>>>>>>> is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is > >>>>>>>>> responsible for everything. > >>>>>>>>> There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe > >>>>>>>>> you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for > >>>>>>>>> the conscience? > >>>>>>>> Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God > >>>>>>>> should be indicted for murder because natural deaths > >>>>>>>> occur. ?Which court do you plan to file that case in? > >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>> : And God spake all these words, saying, > >>>>>>> : I am the LORD thy God, > >>>>>>> : which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, > >>>>>>> : out of the house of bondage. > >>>>>>> : Thou shalt have no other gods before me. > >>>>>>> : [...] > >>>>>>> : Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. > >>>>>>> : [...] > >>>>>>> Exodus 20:1-3,16 > >>>>>>> Just a reminder. > >>>>>>> You know, it's kind of sad how you can only defend > >>>>>>> your beliefs by lying -- which is the same, of > >>>>>>> course, as admitting you can't defend them at all. > >>>>>>> Jim Burns > >>>>>> Funny, now all pastors and preachers are say: Thou shalt give me all > >>>>>> your money..... > >>>>>> Which is the reason why the US TV preachers own big villa, jet plane, > >>>>>> bodyguards, women....- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> Well, those people represent themselves and their own financial > >>>>> interests. They are basically con men. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> Are you saying those many people get conned easily? > >> Sure. GW Bus=h got elected didn't he? Living proof of the adage that you > >> can fool most of the people most of the time. Especially naive Xtians. > > >>>> Much like you want to con us into believing your non-existed god and > >>>> Jesus, so that we would donate some money to treat your sickness?- Hide > >>>> quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> I told you from the beginning to decide for yourself what you > >>> believe. > >>> Matthew 7:22 � Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we > >>> not prophewsied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and > >>> in thy name done many wonderful works? > >>> 23 �And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: �depart from > >>> me, ye that work iniquity. > >> I think that means Robbo. He is patently a satanist. > > >>> ============================================ > >>> Harry Potter left from platform 9 &3/4 to go to Hogwarts wizard school. > >>> That makes as much sense as you wholly babble quotations. > >> well at lest its more amusing to read, and no one require that you > >> believe it to be literally true.. > > > Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately. > > Actually I have. > > > Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > > to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > > Potter. > > Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact > of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have > true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. > > By your reasoning at least. > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. Robert B. Winn
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