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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:29
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On Jul 13, 3:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 13, 12:13�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> Smiler wrote:
> >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:b0d2514b-bcc4-4cc6-bc43-51ac8ec9e420@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Jul 11, 8:16 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 11, 12:33 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 10, 8:47?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jul 11, 7:16 am, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for
> >>>>>>>>> anything. That seems to fit well with my own position,
> >>>>>>>>> although we do arrive there from very different
> >>>>>>>>> directions.
> >>>>>>>>> Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet.
> >>>>>>>>> Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when
> >>>>>>>>> you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God
> >>>>>>>>> is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is
> >>>>>>>>> responsible for everything.
> >>>>>>>>> There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe
> >>>>>>>>> you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for
> >>>>>>>>> the conscience?
> >>>>>>>> Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God
> >>>>>>>> should be indicted for murder because natural deaths
> >>>>>>>> occur. ?Which court do you plan to file that case in?
> >>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>> : And God spake all these words, saying,
> >>>>>>> : I am the LORD thy God,
> >>>>>>> : which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt,
> >>>>>>> : out of the house of bondage.
> >>>>>>> : Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
> >>>>>>> : [...]
> >>>>>>> : Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
> >>>>>>> : [...]
> >>>>>>> Exodus 20:1-3,16
> >>>>>>> Just a reminder.
> >>>>>>> You know, it's kind of sad how you can only defend
> >>>>>>> your beliefs by lying -- which is the same, of
> >>>>>>> course, as admitting you can't defend them at all.
> >>>>>>> Jim Burns
> >>>>>> Funny, now all pastors and preachers are say: Thou shalt give me all
> >>>>>> your money.....
> >>>>>> Which is the reason why the US TV preachers own big villa, jet plane,
> >>>>>> bodyguards, women....- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> Well, those people represent themselves and their own financial
> >>>>> interests. They are basically con men.
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>> Are you saying those many people get conned easily?
> >> Sure. GW Bus=h got elected didn't he? Living proof of the adage that you
> >> can fool most of the people most of the time. Especially naive Xtians.
>
> >>>> Much like you want to con us into believing your non-existed god and
> >>>> Jesus, so that we would donate some money to treat your sickness?- Hide
> >>>> quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> I told you from the beginning to decide for yourself what you
> >>> believe.
> >>> Matthew 7:22 � Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we
> >>> not prophewsied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and
> >>> in thy name done many wonderful works?
> >>> 23 �And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: �depart from
> >>> me, ye that work iniquity.
> >> I think that means Robbo. He is patently a satanist.
>
> >>> ============================================
> >>> Harry Potter left from platform 9 &3/4 to go to Hogwarts wizard school.
> >>> That makes as much sense as you wholly babble quotations.
> >> well at lest its more amusing to read, and no one require that you
> >> believe it to be literally true..
>
> > Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately.
>
> Actually I have.
>
> > Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
> > to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
> > Potter.
>
> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>
> By your reasoning at least.
>
Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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