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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 13, 3:02 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 12, 11:53 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 11, 5:18�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "The Natural Philosopher" <a...@b.c> wrote in messagenews:1215765710.4836.0@proxy02.news.clara.net...
>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all.
>>>>>>>>> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the
>>>>>>>>> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying to
>>>>>>>>> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in.
>>>>>>>>> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe,
>>>>>>>>> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal
>>>>>>>>> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to think.
>>>>>>>>> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to maintain
>>>>>>>>> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason.
>>>>>>>>> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events moved
>>>>>>>>> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the
>>>>>>>>> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty
>>>>>>>>> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned out
>>>>>>>>> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and
>>>>>>>>> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all.
>>>>>>>>> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith,
>>>>>>>>> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not a
>>>>>>>>> Good Thing for people and civilisations.
>>>>>>>>> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of
>>>>>>>>> necessity be true.
>>>>>>>>> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the Force
>>>>>>>>> of Gravity.
>>>>>>>>> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no
>>>>>>>>> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that has
>>>>>>>>> pragmatic use will do.
>>>>>>>>> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense.
>>>>>>>>> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the
>>>>>>>>> useless, long past its sell-by date.
>>>>>>>>>> ==========
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>>>>>>>> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no
>>>>>>>> problem with that.
>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>> And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted?
>>>>>> You expect relevance from this moron?
>>>>>> He can't even manage coherence, logic or truth.
>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>> The godless one
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>>>>> Atheists believe that intelligence is nothing more than electrical
>>>>> impulses.
>>>> No, they do not. Another lie from the Prince of Lies.
>>> Your problem, Natural, is the same problem that all atheists have.
>>> You never say anything.
>> Well at lest that absolves me from the sin of lying eh Robbo.
>>
>> Wheres you sin ever time you open your mouth,. and end up saying nothing
>> as its simply bullshit when you do.
>>
> Well, Satan is capable of saying that anything whatsoever is a lie.
> To atheists and evil spirits that is what constitutes freedom.
> Robert B. Winn
i guess that makes you satan then.