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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#13148
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:30
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 13, 3:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 12, 11:59 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 12, 12:01�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Linda Fox" <linda...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8vih74pvkgdkcmula0art55aogmd3pvne1@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. �If a two year
>>>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going
>>>>>>>> to do the same thing.
>>>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a
>>>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the
>>>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer.
>>>>>>> Linda ff
>>>>>> This man obviously has no children.
>>>>>> He has absolutely no idea what a two year old can or can't do.
>>>>>> Look, Bobby, he's two.
>>>>>> He has no fucking clue what an atheist or a theist is.
>>>>>> He's under my feet right now, pushing toy cars around the floor and
>>>>>> shouting, "Beep Beep"
>>>>>> He doesn't even know what a lie is, so how can you expect him to recognize
>>>>>> one?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>> He does not even care.  All he is doing is what he sees you doing.  If
>>>>> he finds lying to be more effective in getting what he wants, he is
>>>>> going to lie.
>>>> Well lets hope he nenver gets involved in religion then, so he wont need to.
>>> How are you going to shield him from the Lorentz equations?  If he
>>> goes to school there are books everywhere explaining the miracle of
>>> length contraction.
>> What miracle?
>>
>> If he is smart enough, he wont need to have it explained, he will work
>> it out for himself: if he isn't smart enough, he will simply ignore it
>> as irrelevant to his life.
>>
>> What he will never get, is someone telling him its the Truth, and if he
>> doesn't believe it, he will go to hell for eternity.
>>
> Scientists say that the Lorentz equations show that an object in
> motion contracts in length relative to a frame of reference at rest
> until at the speed of light, the object has a length of zero.  So you
> are bringing up your son in a religion called atheism that has one
> miracle.

I don't have a son.
The lorentz equations are not a miracle
The lorentz equations do not require  faith or to be believed in to exist.
They are a tool that accurately predicts the outcome of experiments, 
that is all.

So thats three lies you have manages to utter in just a single 
paragraph. You soul is in extreme danger.

> Whether it is many miracles or only one, a miracle is a miracle.
> Robert B. Winn
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:30:28 +0100
From: The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
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