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Article #13154Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:49
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:49
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 13, 3:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 12:13�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >>>> Smiler wrote: >>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:b0d2514b-bcc4-4cc6-bc43-51ac8ec9e420@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Jul 11, 8:16 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 11, 12:33 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 10, 8:47?pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 7:16 am, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:04 pm, James Burns <burns...@osu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> You seem to be arguing that God is not responsible for >>>>>>>>>>> anything. That seems to fit well with my own position, >>>>>>>>>>> although we do arrive there from very different >>>>>>>>>>> directions. >>>>>>>>>>> Keep up the good work. We'll make an atheist of you yet. >>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding. I don't really believe you're serious when >>>>>>>>>>> you argue this way. A few posts after you post how God >>>>>>>>>>> is responsible for nothing, you will post that God is >>>>>>>>>>> responsible for everything. >>>>>>>>>>> There is no consistency in what you write, but maybe >>>>>>>>>>> you see no problem in that. Do you see logic as a trap for >>>>>>>>>>> the conscience? >>>>>>>>>> Well, you atheists were the ones who were saying God >>>>>>>>>> should be indicted for murder because natural deaths >>>>>>>>>> occur. ?Which court do you plan to file that case in? >>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>> : And God spake all these words, saying, >>>>>>>>> : I am the LORD thy God, >>>>>>>>> : which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, >>>>>>>>> : out of the house of bondage. >>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt have no other gods before me. >>>>>>>>> : [...] >>>>>>>>> : Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. >>>>>>>>> : [...] >>>>>>>>> Exodus 20:1-3,16 >>>>>>>>> Just a reminder. >>>>>>>>> You know, it's kind of sad how you can only defend >>>>>>>>> your beliefs by lying -- which is the same, of >>>>>>>>> course, as admitting you can't defend them at all. >>>>>>>>> Jim Burns >>>>>>>> Funny, now all pastors and preachers are say: Thou shalt give me all >>>>>>>> your money..... >>>>>>>> Which is the reason why the US TV preachers own big villa, jet plane, >>>>>>>> bodyguards, women....- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, those people represent themselves and their own financial >>>>>>> interests. They are basically con men. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Are you saying those many people get conned easily? >>>> Sure. GW Bus=h got elected didn't he? Living proof of the adage that you >>>> can fool most of the people most of the time. Especially naive Xtians. >>>>>> Much like you want to con us into believing your non-existed god and >>>>>> Jesus, so that we would donate some money to treat your sickness?- Hide >>>>>> quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> I told you from the beginning to decide for yourself what you >>>>> believe. >>>>> Matthew 7:22 � Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we >>>>> not prophewsied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and >>>>> in thy name done many wonderful works? >>>>> 23 �And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: �depart from >>>>> me, ye that work iniquity. >>>> I think that means Robbo. He is patently a satanist. >>>>> ============================================ >>>>> Harry Potter left from platform 9 &3/4 to go to Hogwarts wizard school. >>>>> That makes as much sense as you wholly babble quotations. >>>> well at lest its more amusing to read, and no one require that you >>>> believe it to be literally true.. >>> Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately. >> Actually I have. >> >>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has >>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry >>> Potter. >> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact >> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have >> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction. >> >> By your reasoning at least. >> > Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is. > Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean. It means that your thinking has no logic. ergo rational argument with someone who has no logic, and will lie freely and easily and evade all responsibility for it by changing the subject and picking random statements, taking them out of context and rearranging them to seem to mean what he wants them to mean, is not possible. In short you do with any comments or reasonable arguments the same that you have done to the Bible, you profane it by rearranging it to seem to mean what you want it to mean, using lies and evasions every time the hypocritical contradictions in your worldview become obvious. In short you are the sorriest example of a self avowed Christian it has ever been my misfortune to meet. You are a complete disrace to your society, your country, and your religion, and ultimately the human race. > Robert B. Winn
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