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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:35:49 -0500, Antares 531
<gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:03:41 -0700, ben_dolan_III@reet.com (Ben Dolan)
>wrote:
>
>>Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The parables, allegories, etc., were selected by God as he passed His
>>> information along to those prophets. True, they often used existing
>>> legends, etc., but the message from God was fitted into these stories,
>>> thus making it easy for the people to remember them.   Gordon
>>
>>Selected by God, you say? God couldn't come up with his own parables, he
>>had to rip off parables from some lowly humans? And how exactly, was
>>"the message from God" fitted into these? 
>>
>Not quite right...God had to use parables that those ancient people
>could grasp the meaning of. The messages are fitted into these
>parables in a form that any intuitive mind can easily understand. But
>this format is also easy for an obstinate mind to reject. Sovereign
>choice, eh wot?
>?
>>Seems like a pretty pathetic God...
>>
>The primary objective was and still is to give us, jointly and
>severally, a hands-on learning process that will raise out
>understanding to the level that God will can safely grant us
>immortality and absolute sovereignty. That is, we will all know enough
>about sin and rebellion to assure God that none of us will ever want
>to go back and tinker around with it any more, once this mortal phase
>of our existence is completed. And, we won't have gotten to this level
>as pre-programmed puppets. We will be sovereign, and our mind-set will
>be based upon our own personal experiences and the reviewed
>experiences of all other humans. 
>>
>>> God IS the source of all our science. God IS the creator of all this.
>>> God used the same science we are beginning to understand, to carry out
>>> His creation program.   Gordon
>>
>>That's nice, sweetie. Glad you still believe in fairy tales, just like
>>Peter Pan: "God IS real! He IS! He IS!"
>>
>Believing that everything just happened by pure chance is the thing
>that I can't fathom. How do you swallow that load of horse barn
>sweepings?
>
>You remind me of the allegorical sentient computer that has never been
>connected to the Internet. Never having experienced an Internet
>connection, this sentient computer is convinced that the Internet does
>not exist, but is merely a figment of the imaginations of those other
>sentient computers that have a connection to the Internet. And,
>although this never-been-connected computer has all the hardware and
>software it needs it adamantly refuses to activate its DSL connection
>and find out for its self.

Now why on earth would this be even remotely likely? "Allegorical
sentient computer"? "convinced..."? "figment of the imaginations of
other sentient computers..."???!!!??? It doesn't work, that allegory.
Not even slightly. Sorry.
>
Right. You know that bit towards the end of the story of Cinderella
where the prince comes around with the slipper she left behind, and
says that whoever has the foot that will fit this slipper must be the
girl he danced with and wishes to marry? And her sisters come to greet
the prince when he gets to their house, and they cut off toes to fit
the slipper, and he's fooled only until he sees the blood coming out
of the sides of the slipper?

That is what you are doing, Gordon. You are taking what I think you
can see is a nonsensical state, and you are chopping it around until
you can find an explanation, however ludicrous, that will fit it. The
trouble is, we can still see the blood coming out round the edges...

Linda ff
In the beginning, Man created God in his own image.