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Article #13254Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:17
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:17
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On Jul 13, 10:24 am, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1c80751f-d62b-4476-9127-9f62df713eaa@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: > > > > > The Loan Arranger wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > >> On Jul 9, 3:52?am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: > > >>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean ?that God > > >>>> approved of it. ?It just meant it was going to take place. > > >>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really have > > >>> chafed. > > > >> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he chose to > > >> do it. > > > > "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get these nails > > > out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A BREAK > > > HERE!" > > > > TLA > > > The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the reflection of > > the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze at it, and > > teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own > > reflections, they don't get frightened to death. > > > Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it really is.. > > Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout. > > So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death, John > the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles suffered > martyrs' deaths, > ==================================== > Where did John the Baptist, Jesus and his apostles appear in the OT? > You don't know your own wholly babble too well, do you? > ========================================== > > religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews > ====================================== > and muslims were also burned at the stake during the inquisition. > ==================================== > > were put in extermination camps > =================================== > for being Jews, not for their religious beliefs. Atheists or christians of > Jewish descent were not spared. > ========================================== > > Communist regimes killed most clergy, > ================================== > again, not for their beliefs, but for being against the government. > What about the communist clergy in South America? > ====================================== > etc.? > > If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious people > get killed for their beliefs? > ====================================== > If religion is based on such a wholesome story, why do so many religious > people > kill for their beliefs? > > Smiler, > The godless one > a.a.# 2279 Rather, if the god is real, why is he powerless to prevent the killing of his followers? In bible and in the minds of all theists, their god is neither there nor capable to do anything. Otherwise, this world will only have one religion.... and no atheists. But this is beyond rbwinn's ability to understand; or he wouldn't come to the conclusion that religious people get killed for their belief. (Again a bullshit point from a lying bastard).
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