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Article #13261Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: hhyapster
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:59
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:59
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On Jul 14, 5:35 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:03:41 -0700, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) > wrote: > > >Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote: > > >> The parables, allegories, etc., were selected by God as he passed His > >> information along to those prophets. True, they often used existing > >> legends, etc., but the message from God was fitted into these stories, > >> thus making it easy for the people to remember them. Gordon > > >Selected by God, you say? God couldn't come up with his own parables, he > >had to rip off parables from some lowly humans? And how exactly, was > >"the message from God" fitted into these? > > Not quite right...God had to use parables that those ancient people > could grasp the meaning of. The messages are fitted into these > parables in a form that any intuitive mind can easily understand. But > this format is also easy for an obstinate mind to reject. Sovereign > choice, eh wot? > ?>Seems like a pretty pathetic God... > > The primary objective was and still is to give us, jointly and > severally, a hands-on learning process that will raise out > understanding to the level that God will can safely grant us > immortality and absolute sovereignty. That is, we will all know enough > about sin and rebellion to assure God that none of us will ever want > to go back and tinker around with it any more, once this mortal phase > of our existence is completed. And, we won't have gotten to this level > as pre-programmed puppets. We will be sovereign, and our mind-set will > be based upon our own personal experiences and the reviewed > experiences of all other humans. > > >> God IS the source of all our science. God IS the creator of all this. > >> God used the same science we are beginning to understand, to carry out > >> His creation program. Gordon > > >That's nice, sweetie. Glad you still believe in fairy tales, just like > >Peter Pan: "God IS real! He IS! He IS!" > > Believing that everything just happened by pure chance is the thing > that I can't fathom. How do you swallow that load of horse barn > sweepings? > > You remind me of the allegorical sentient computer that has never been > connected to the Internet. Never having experienced an Internet > connection, this sentient computer is convinced that the Internet does > not exist, but is merely a figment of the imaginations of those other > sentient computers that have a connection to the Internet. And, > although this never-been-connected computer has all the hardware and > software it needs it adamantly refuses to activate its DSL connection > and find out for its self. > > Gordon You are trying to bullshit here that your god has no power to grant sufficient intelligence to human to grasp the "meaning......" What a silliest point one can make up.
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