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Article #1328Re: Relativity and Quantum Mechanics
From: Gast
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:05
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:05
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In article <1992Jul21.032510.6139@leland.Stanford.EDU> zamenhof@leland.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Fish) writes: > Now, observer A will see one flash happen before the other. Is there not > some sense in which the second flash is already determined at that time, > for that observer? If so, is this a philosophical problem for QM, having > a truly random event, such as a nuclear decay, somehow predetermined? Here is an explaination: Both events of flashing are'n simultanious in observer A's system. And there is NO chance of being predetermined, because in this case the later flashlight had to get the information 'the earlier one has flashed' from observer B outside BEFORE it flashes, which is impossible if the signal from B moves at c. Therefore the Information of the observer B can not be used, there is no predetermination. But another well-known paradoxa is this: Imagine a particle with a determine spin which 'explodes' in two particles with undetermined spins and equal masses. The seperate from each other in a large distance and their spin is undetermined. When they are far away their spins are measured simultaniously By observers A and B (in the center-of-mass-system, syncronized for example by a flash at the time of explosion). Each observer A and B could measure various spins, which are determined at the time of measurement. On the other hand these spins have to be correlated because of the initial spin of the exploding particle. So the particle at A has to know SIMULTANIOUSLY which spin is measured by B, the signal has to move with infinity speed, contradictive to the SR. This is a summary of the EINSTEIN-PODGOLSKY-ROSEN-experiment (I hope I got the names right). So long Harry
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Newsgroups: sci.physics Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!email!news From: gast@next.ben-fh.tuwien.ac.at (Gast) Subject: Re: Relativity and Quantum Mechanics Message-ID: <1992Jul22.130507.21744@email.tuwien.ac.at> Sender: news@email.tuwien.ac.at Nntp-Posting-Host: next.ben-fh.tuwien.ac.at Organization: Technical University of Vienna References: <1992Jul21.032510.6139@leland.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:05:07 GMT Lines: 40