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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 11, 5:18�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>> "The Natural Philosopher" <a...@b.c> wrote in messagenews:1215765710.4836.0@proxy02.news.clara.net...
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>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all.
>>>>> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the
>>>>> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying to
>>>>> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in.
>>>>> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe,
>>>>> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal
>>>>> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to think.
>>>>> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to maintain
>>>>> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason.
>>>>> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events moved
>>>>> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the
>>>>> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty
>>>>> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned out
>>>>> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and
>>>>> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all.
>>>>> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith,
>>>>> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not a
>>>>> Good Thing for people and civilisations.
>>>>> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of
>>>>> necessity be true.
>>>>> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the Force
>>>>> of Gravity.
>>>>> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no
>>>>> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that has
>>>>> pragmatic use will do.
>>>>> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense.
>>>>> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the
>>>>> useless, long past its sell-by date.
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>>>> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no
>>>> problem with that.
>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>> And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted?
>> You expect relevance from this moron?
>> He can't even manage coherence, logic or truth.
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>> Smiler,
>> The godless one
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> Atheists believe that intelligence is nothing more than electrical
> impulses.

No, they do not. Another lie from the Prince of Lies.

> Robert B. Winn