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Article #13323Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:05
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:05
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 12, 1:55 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> The Loan Arranger wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> On Jul 9, 3:52�am, The Loan Arranger <no...@nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>> The fact that it could all be prophesied does not mean �that God >>>>>> approved of it. �It just meant it was going to take place. >>>>> You mean he was powerless to stop it? Wow! That must really have chafed. >>>> Jesus Christ could have stopped his crucifixion any time he chose to >>>> do it. >>> "Hey, guys - guys! Just kidding, honest, c'mon, let's get these nails >>> out, shake hands, and ... uh, guys? Guys? HEY GUYS, CUT ME A BREAK HERE!" >>> TLA >> The concept of god is necessary to put a himan face on the reflection of >> the mystrious Universe in men's minds, so that when they gaze at it, and >> teh only bits they recognize as faintly familiar , are their own >> reflections, they don't get frightened to death. >> >> Atheism is for those who have the courage to see it as it really is.. >> Religion is just the kiddy bedtime story copout. > > So why is it then that Old Testament prophets were put to death, John > the Baptist was beheaded, Jesus was crucified, his apostles suffered > martyrs' deaths, religious reformers were burned at the stake, Jews > were put in extermination camps, Communist regimes killed most clergy, > etc.? > If religion is such a bedtime story, why do so many religious people > get killed for their beliefs? Probably because they are a bunch of hypocritical liars, like you are. Plenty of people die rather than face the truth. Anyway, since they are all on the way to a Better Life, they shouldn't complain if someone helps them along the way, should they? Tell me, as a devout Christian (allegedly: `It's hard to believe anything you say) will death be something you avoid, or something that is simply going to be the best thing that has ever happened to you? If teh latter, would you like a hand? > Robert B. Winn
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