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On Jul 12, 11:52 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 4:14�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >> Antares 531 wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:17:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Antares 531 wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:15:08 -0700, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan)
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>> (snip)
> >>>>> Ben, there is an ABUNDANCE of evidence that God exists,
> >>>> Which God though?
> >>> The One whose prophecies are repeatedly and accurately fulfilled.
> >> OH, you mean a SCIENTIST.
>
> >> I thought we were talking religion..
>
> > How about this prophecy?
>
> >                               x'=(x-vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
> >                               y'=y
> >                               z'=z
> >                               t'=t
>
> > You atheists have no trouble believing this miracle.   An object in
> > motion relative to a frame of reference contracts in length until at
> > the speed of light its length is zero.
>
> Speed of light relative to what Robbo?
>
> You don't even begin to understand this 'miracle'
>
> I bet you don't even begin to understand the 'miracle' that you are
> reading this on.
>
> All science is about accurate prediction of the future. If you type
> something here, and all the proper elements of the satanic rituals are
> in place, and all the little satanists have connected the plugs and
> wires, and all the little satanic devices have been properly
> manufactured, and everything in a vast technical infrastructure all
> based on applied science are in place, and have been properly tested to
> be working, then magically the words *will* appear on several hundred
> computer screens all over the world. After you press the send button.
>
> Now that doesn't make Scientific theorems on which all this is based,
> including quantum physics, TRUE, but at least the stuff does something
> pretty useful and miraculous.
>
> Whereas the best you can come up with is an ill defined set of rules and
> behaviours that will, after I am dead, somehow save me from something
> and catapult me into something else: however I can find no instance of
> anyone actually having been there and back to even begin to confirm
> whether this will in fact happen or not.
>
> Ok there's an old story about one guy who allegedly did, but he could
> have been lying anyway.
>
> And you want me to accept this as absolute cast iron FACT? purleeze..
>
> It's just more of Kiplings Bandar Log..
>
As I said, you accept Einstein's interpretation of the Lorentz
equations because it was used to produce nuclear weapons, something
you find useful in your philosophy.  And Scientists did it.  However,
as I said, it requires a miracle.  If an object moves, it gets shorter
in length, if it is accellerated to the speed of light, it has a
length of zero.  That is what the equations say.   This is a miracle
you can accept because scientists believe it.  So you and scientists
have a religion that is acceptable to you which only requires one
miracle.
   By accepting this one miracle, you have a religion which allows you
to do anything that you can imagine, as long as you can get away with
it, and if you get away with something on this earth, it is forgotten
forever.
    However, that is not reality.  Everyone who lives on this earth
will be resurrected because Jesus Christ was resurrected.  So there is
nothing hidden that will not be brought to light, there is nothing
unjust that will not be brought to justice.
     So you can claim that scientists and their little false religion
of one miracle are supreme, or you can believe Jesus Christ.  I
personally believe Jesus Christ.
Robert B. Winn